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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / June 2006Airbag warning oddity
I've got a 2005 Dodge Magnum. I just had the passenger-seat airbag warning monitor recalibrated because the warning light/chime was going off and on every minute or two whenever the passenger seat was empty. The technician told me something about the monitor getting all discombobulated if I put something in the seat other than a passenger -- say a book or a pizza or a bag of groceries. He even said I should never push the seat all the way back, as that, too, can fool the sensors and cause the warning light/chime to start flipping out. The technician even suggested that having a trash bag hanging from the backrest might throw off the sensors. When I drove up to the service department and described my problem, the technician looked askance at the printed insert from a CD I was listening to. The piece of paper was the only thing on the passenger seat! Can someone explain to me what the problem is in fairly clear terms? Does this mean that nothing WHATSOEVER but a passenger should ever be placed on the passenger seat? And if so, have car manufacturers ever addressed how bloody inconvenient this is? Jim Beaver > I've got a 2005 Dodge Magnum. I just had the passenger-seat airbag warning > monitor recalibrated because the warning light/chime was going off and on [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jim Beaver The technician was just letting you know that the manufacturer's software and seat sensing technology is a bit buggy and they haven't worked out all the kinks yet. Kinda like a beta version. As time goes on the system will improve to meet customer demands. If it turns out that there are not a lot of complaints, then no money or effort will be spent to address the problem. For now, you will just have to live with it and hope the manufacturer comes out with a TSB on how to alleviate the annoyance, but for something so trivial compared to all the other major problems they are dealing with, it will probably be several model years before annoying seat sensor systems are debugged. Until then your choices are pretty much limited to keeping the seat clear or trading your vehicle in for a different model with out that sort of problem. Of course, no matter what you wind up getting, there is very little chance that absolutely nothing about it will annoy you. After all, nothing is perfect.  SignatureKevin Mouton Automotive Technology Instructor "If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy" Red Green kevin it scare me to think with that response that you are teaching auto repair that is the 3gen airbag system dn it works so good it can tell ya how much your fat a.s, head weighs just be sitting in the seat and dc spent billions to make the system is sound and it is but the techs at dealers are the failing components here probably the same ones you taught > > I've got a 2005 Dodge Magnum. I just had the passenger-seat airbag > warning [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > "If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy" > Red Green > kevin it scare me to think with that response that you are teaching auto repair > that is the 3gen airbag system dn it works so good it can tell ya how much your > fat a.s, head weighs just be sitting in the seat and dc spent billions to make > the system is sound and it is but the techs at dealers are the failing > components here probably the same ones you taught No, you've got it wrong. I taught the ones that can fix them. I did not teach the engineers that designed them, and we all know how they screw up all the time. Can you say TSB? From your sentence structure it seems you probably don't even have a clue anyway. Don't know why I bothered responding Kevin > > > I've got a 2005 Dodge Magnum. I just had the passenger-seat airbag > > warning [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > "If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy" > > Red Green > I've got a 2005 Dodge Magnum. I just had the passenger-seat airbag warning > monitor recalibrated because the warning light/chime was going off and on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > the passenger seat? And if so, have car manufacturers ever addressed how > bloody inconvenient this is? I think the tech was wrong, the automakers cannot set these to be that sensitive because variations in the seat stuffing and manufacture are present and if they were that sensitive they would be going off every time the production line changed anything. It's a rediculous proposition. I think for whatever reason, yours has a problem. Since it's under warranty you should not take a blow-off response like that, if it keeps happening keep going back there and bitching about it, or find another dealership. Of course, if you put something heavy like grocery bags of milk on the seat, the car should think there is something there. Why don't you simply buckle the seat belt over whatever is there to shut up the chime? Ted ted just so you know the new system has to be calibrated for the seat to function properly. meaning a tool called assmeter by techs is a weight that has to placed into the pass. seat and with a scanner the seat has to accept the weight and record the weight seen by the strain gauges in the seat track ( a bent seat frame can also cause the lite to come on) anyway the seat and it's system is based on airbag deployment not to go off with a person under 100 lbs sitting in it such as a kid or a female and the airbag will also deploy with less power in a lighter impact if the is such a thing > > I've got a 2005 Dodge Magnum. I just had the passenger-seat airbag > warning [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Ted they also have a issue with the seat wiring and that can set the lite on but the sterlership won't amit they suc! > I've got a 2005 Dodge Magnum. I just had the passenger-seat airbag warning > monitor recalibrated because the warning light/chime was going off and on [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jim Beaver
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