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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / July 2006

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Used Truck With Front Frame Rail Damage

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pokee@shaw.ca - 28 Jul 2006 06:48 GMT
I was just about to buy a used truck (2004 Dodge Ram 4x4 Diesel) and
just before we finalized the deal, I found out it was in an accident
(even though the dealer said it was not - even in WRITING).  When I
obtained detailed claim information from the insurance company, I found
out it the front left and right rails had been repaired (about 4 hours
of labor total).

Apparently, this truck was involved in an accident in a parking lot and
had around $7,000 in repairs.  Looked more like the previous owner
rear-ended someone.

While I know that buying a vehicle with frame repair is usually a
no-no, is there anyway of knowing if the repair was done perfectly - so
it will never develop faults in the drivetrain as a result or so it
will not compromise safety in a future accident?  Privacy laws prevent
me from finding out who did the repairs.

Perhaps I should just run away now?

Thanks,
Paula
rwatson767@aol.com - 28 Jul 2006 07:04 GMT
me from finding out who did the repairs.

> Perhaps I should just run away now?
>
> Thanks,
> Paula

The dealer is not being up front with you.

Run now. The dealer will call soon. Keep running.

Bob  AZ
HLS@nospam.nix - 28 Jul 2006 13:41 GMT
> I was just about to buy a used truck (2004 Dodge Ram 4x4 Diesel) and
> just before we finalized the deal, I found out it was in an accident
> (even though the dealer said it was not - even in WRITING).  When I
> obtained detailed claim information from the insurance company, I found
> out it the front left and right rails had been repaired (about 4 hours
> of labor total).

The dealer might be very close to serious legal issues I would think.  If
they
knew about the accident and claimed in writing that it did not happen, that
begins to smell like fraud, if not incompetence.

I wouldn't want to do business with these people.

I would also doubt (based on US experiences) that privacy laws prevent
you from finding out who did the work.  Whose privacy is at stake?

You could always take the truck to a qualified frame shop and have them
look it over.  Modern frame shops can effect high quality repairs that
will never come back to bite you, BUT not all frame repairs are carried out
with this degree of expertise.  Nor do you know how hard a lick the truck
actually got.
sdlomi2 - 28 Jul 2006 19:58 GMT
>> I was just about to buy a used truck (2004 Dodge Ram 4x4 Diesel) and
>> just before we finalized the deal, I found out it was in an accident
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> with this degree of expertise.  Nor do you know how hard a lick the truck
> actually got.

   Hey Pokee, I strongly second HLS's response.  He is being fair to a
possibly unknowing dealer.  I think consumers like to deal with dealers who
are both honest and competent--one without the other leaves too much in
doubt.
   He is also fair and accurate in his portrayal of high quality and
accuracy of body/frame work that CAN be done, as well as the fact that ALL
shops do not perform the same degree of quality repairs.
   Last, if you know a shop which is both competent AND honest, you can get
a fair appraisal of the quality of work that has been done, to some degree
the amount of work/damage performed, and thus a pretty good indicator of
future problems that may arise as a result of the vehicle's history.
   Some of the best vehicles I've had experience with, both thru personal
use and watching customers' service obtained, have been from
properly-repaired vehicles.  And I have had somewhat widespread exposure
thru direct experience via spending a number of years in the used automobile
profession.
   Good luck & here's hopes you can continue learning and profiting from
excellent advice that is often given here.
sdlomi2
Scott Dorsey - 28 Jul 2006 14:10 GMT
>I was just about to buy a used truck (2004 Dodge Ram 4x4 Diesel) and
>just before we finalized the deal, I found out it was in an accident
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>
>Perhaps I should just run away now?

There's probably nothing wrong with the vehicle from the accident.  But,
you have just established that the dealer is a lying crook.

I would run away from that dealer if I were you, because you don't know
what ELSE he might be hiding.  And I'd tell him why you're running away too.
--scott

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Steve W. - 28 Jul 2006 21:02 GMT
> I was just about to buy a used truck (2004 Dodge Ram 4x4 Diesel) and
> just before we finalized the deal, I found out it was in an accident
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks,
> Paula

I would be leaving and not looking back. The repair may be fine and the
truck mat be OK but the dealer is a LIAR. If you have it in writing then
you also have a fraud issue with the dealer since they broke the law.
 I also doubt that a privacy law prevents you from finding out who did
the repairs. If it was done in an actual shop they are responsible for
those repairs.
 
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