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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2006

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Fuel Consumption RPM MPH

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galsaba - 10 Aug 2006 17:07 GMT
I think rating fuel consumtion for comperasion purposes can be
misleading.
Wont a 3.5 Liter car will consume less fuel in high speeds compares to
2.5?

Where can I find answers or charts that show fuel consumtion vs speed
for various engine sizes?

Also, what would be the RPM when an automatic gear 3.5 L car is at 75
MPH?
what would be the RPM when an automatic gear 2.5 L car is at 75 MPH?

galsaba
ray - 10 Aug 2006 17:47 GMT
> I think rating fuel consumtion for comperasion purposes can be
> misleading.
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> galsaba

the closest you'll probably come to is fueleconomy.gov

and the only rule is there are no rules, because my 5.7L Firebird gets
better real world fuel economy than my co-worker's 2.5L Cougar.
Kevin Mouton - 10 Aug 2006 18:01 GMT
> I think rating fuel consumtion for comperasion purposes can be
> misleading.
> Wont a 3.5 Liter car will consume less fuel in high speeds compares to
> 2.5?

Not necessarily.

> Where can I find answers or charts that show fuel consumtion vs speed
> for various engine sizes?

Depends on what manufacturer you are talking about. The factory
engineers have such specs, but it might be hard to find it on the net.
One thing is for sure. If all else is equal , then the faster you go
the more fuel you will consume.

> Also, what would be the RPM when an automatic gear 3.5 L car is at 75
> MPH?
> what would be the RPM when an automatic gear 2.5 L car is at 75 MPH?

There again, you can't compare apples to oranges. You need to have all
other variables the same to come up with the sort of figure you are
talking about. Different cars have different gear ratios in the
transmission and differential as well as different size tires based on
which size engine they have in them. All that has to be taken into
consideration.

> galsaba

The engine displacement is one of the things least affecting the total
fuel efficiency of a vehicle. Many other factors must be taken into
consideration. The aerodynamics of the vehicle, gear ratios, type of
emmission controls, weather or not it is naturally asperated, etc., all
affect fuel economy. Basic engine design plays a lot into how efficient
the engine will consume fuel as well. It is just not as simple as
saying a larger engine burns more fuel, because you have to factor in
the weight of the car wind resistance and all that other stuff to get
an idea of how efficient the vehicle as a whole will be.

Kevin
galsaba - 10 Aug 2006 18:29 GMT
To be more specific -
Toyota Camry V6 or Nissan Altima 3.5.compares to Camry 2.4, or compares
to Nissan Altima 2.5 - all driving same road (same tires, etc.)

75 MPH.

> > I think rating fuel consumtion for comperasion purposes can be
> > misleading.
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> Kevin
do_not_spam_me@my-deja.com - 10 Aug 2006 20:10 GMT
> I think rating fuel consumtion for comperasion purposes can be
> misleading.
> Wont a 3.5 Liter car will consume less fuel in high speeds compares to
> 2.5?

It depends.  Here are some of Consumer Reports' results:

Toyota Camry 3.5L:  32 MPG highway, 16 MPG city
Toyota Camry 2.4L:  36 MPG highway, 16 MPG city

Chevy Malibu 3.5L:  38 MPG highway, 18 MPG city
Chevy Malibu 2.2L:  38 MPG highway, 16 MPG city

Are you trying to justify to your spouse the extra cost of a V-6?  :)
John S. - 10 Aug 2006 20:36 GMT
For what it's worth I drove both the 4 and 6 cylinder version of the
Camry.  In my opinion they both were very powerful engines that are
appropriate for that car.  If there was a difference in acceleration it
was so small that I could not notice it.  If you really concentrate
when the engines are at an idle, it is possible to notice a slight more
vibration from the 4 cylinder than the 6.  Otherwise it is a push.  I
read somewhere that Toyota developed the V6 for the USA market because
people there like engines with more cylinders.  It helps sell cars.

The V6 because it is a bigger engine will probably use a little more
gas at highway speed.

I don't know the V6 is worth the substantial premuim in price, but that
is my opinion.

> To be more specific -
> Toyota Camry V6 or Nissan Altima 3.5.compares to Camry 2.4, or compares
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> > Kevin
 
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