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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2006

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gasoline sitting for 18 months?

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shoemakerted@yahoo.com - 21 Aug 2006 15:57 GMT
Hello,

I'm trying to fix a van that has been sitting for a year and a half.
Assuming that the mechanical stuff gets fixed right (HA!), what about
the gas?  I've been told to drain the tank, because the gasoline has
degraded -- but I don't know how to do it, nor where to dump (legally)
the spoiled gas.

Is there another option?  Can I just put a can of STP in the tank, and
grit my teeth?

In case the details matter:
1989 Ford Econoline 150
fuel injectors
We live in Wisconsin; this gas was sold in February 2005 and might have
winter additives.

Thank you very much!

Ted Shoemaker
rudyxhiebert@yahoo.com - 21 Aug 2006 18:15 GMT
18 month old gas is not ideal, but I'd be curious how you know it's
degraded? Draining the old gas should work by using a syphone hose and
jerry can. Some recylers w/ take it if it's labled.
If you add a gasoline a good gasoline additive to the new gas and
changed over to a good synthetic lube, you s/b good 2-go.
RH
> Hello,
> I'm trying to fix a van that has been sitting for a year and a half.
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> Thank you very much!
> Ted Shoemaker
shoemakerted@yahoo.com - 22 Aug 2006 16:52 GMT
> 18 month old gas is not ideal, but I'd be curious how you know it's
> degraded?

I was told that any gasoline older than one month has "turned to
varnish".  I'm sure that's an overstatement, but I don't know what the
truth about gas is.

Ted Shoemaker
Keep YerSpam - 22 Aug 2006 20:01 GMT
> Hello,
>
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>
> Ted Shoemaker

Depends how it was stored. If it was indoors it should be fine, though
it'll stink when you get it running until you get fresh gas in it. Some
of the thinner solvents will be gone from evaporation in the gas no
matter how well it's been stored. Wisconsin winter gas (I'm in Fort
Atkinson) would have had more of the thin stuff to evaporate since it's
designed to be stored & used in cold temperatures. Summer gas has less
solvents in it to make it less evaporative in summer heat. The old gas
won't stop you from getting the van running all other things being the
same, but it might make it harder to start or keep running decently if
it's really marginal in the ignition or fuel delivery departments.

I'd throw in some injector cleaner to add some more thinning solvents to
the old gas, and a can of HEET to get rid if some of the water that's
probably condensed in the tank & fuel lines. Get a new fuel filter right
off the bat too. If the ignition system is OK, that should be fine. Then
make sure you use up that gas asap, and expect it to smell funny, get
terrible mileage and run kinda crappy until you get something in there
less than 18+ months old. ;)

Obviously, you're going to want to change the oil & filter as soon as
you get it running since there's likely to be a bunch of water in the
crankcase from condensation as well. The antifreeze should be OK for
now, but maybe not for when it actually gets to below freezing around here.

Cheers,
 - JJ
shoemakerted@yahoo.com - 23 Aug 2006 22:25 GMT
Thanks, everyone, for good and friendly advice.

Ted Shoemaker
Rod & Betty Jo - 25 Aug 2006 19:55 GMT
> Thanks, everyone, for good and friendly advice.
>
> Ted Shoemaker

A little more information on old gas

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/060825.html

Rod
Rod & Betty Jo - 22 Aug 2006 21:55 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> degraded -- but I don't know how to do it, nor where to dump (legally)
> the spoiled gas.

I had a 1987 Nissan Stanza sit for 3 years with a nearly full tank of gas
...started it up, passed DEQ...no problems with the "old gas' whatsoever. I
had a 1989 Dodge van sit for nearly two years, same result...with a 33 gal
tank I had no interest in dumping the gas unless I had to. Now with my lawn
mower or weed-whacker, if left sitting over the winter I happily dump the
gas....Rod
willy - 22 Aug 2006 22:01 GMT
The gas is fine.

> > Hello,
> >
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> mower or weed-whacker, if left sitting over the winter I happily dump the
> gas....Rod
 
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