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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 20065 Speed synchronizer question
I have a 97 metro 5 speed 1.0L and it runs fine. I am beginning to notice that whenever I downshift out of 3rd and 5th that I sometimes have to tug on the shifter to get it out of gear. I am still trying to gather data on this but it seems like one time it will come out nice and smooth and the next I get some resistance getting it out of gear. I notice that if I push the clutch pedal firmly on the floor that it appears to come out easier. My question is if it goes into gear smoothly [3rd and 5th] and does not "rake" the gears going in and it gives me a problem coming out, could it be a synchronizer problem? The gear oil fluid level is full and I think I can say that I noticed a tad bit of resistance going into 3rd and 5th on the drive back home. Any advice would help. This transaxle has 140000 miles on it and has never given me a problem. > I have a 97 metro 5 speed 1.0L and it runs fine. I am beginning to notice > that whenever I downshift out of 3rd and 5th that I sometimes have to tug [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 3rd and 5th on the drive back home. Any advice would help. This transaxle > has 140000 miles on it and has never given me a problem. sounds like your clutch is not disengaging completely nate  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >> I have a 97 metro 5 speed 1.0L and it runs fine. I am beginning to notice >> that whenever I downshift out of 3rd and 5th that I sometimes have to tug [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > nate It was out of adjustment. When I backed the adjuster off to get free play again it all fell into place. Now I have to watch it to see how much the misadjustment over time has shortened the clutch life. My thanks to you and everyone else that responded. mbjj > I have a 97 metro 5 speed 1.0L and it runs fine. I am beginning to notice > that whenever I downshift out of 3rd and 5th that I sometimes have to tug [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 3rd and 5th on the drive back home. Any advice would help. This transaxle > has 140000 miles on it and has never given me a problem. When's the last time you checked the clutch fluid level/cable tension? Sounds to me more like a clutch that's not quite disengaging than a synchro problem from your information so far - especially the comment about "if I push the clutch pedal firmly to the floor..." A bum clutch could give you exactly the described symptoms. (and be a good bit cheaper to deal with than needing new synchros) 140K is a pretty good run for a clutch - especially on a "disposable" car like a Metro. SignatureDon Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - If your "From:" address isn't on my whitelist, or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow" somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd> for more info >> I have a 97 metro 5 speed 1.0L and it runs fine. I am beginning to notice >> that whenever I downshift out of 3rd and 5th that I sometimes have to tug [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > 140K is a pretty good run for a clutch - especially on a "disposable" > car like a Metro. The clutch is cable driven and I adjusted it about to the end of its throw. I have 3 or 4 more threads showing on the adjuster nut and then it will be bottomed out. As for the clutch itself I replaced it about 30,000 miles ago when I swapped out the engine. Unless my son was riding it when he had it for a year or so there isn't that many miles on it. You think it's more of an adjustment than it is a syncro problem? >>>I have a 97 metro 5 speed 1.0L and it runs fine. I am beginning to notice >>>that whenever I downshift out of 3rd and 5th that I sometimes have to tug [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > riding it when he had it for a year or so there isn't that many miles > on it. You think it's more of an adjustment than it is a syncro problem? How much fre eplay does the clutch pedal have currently? nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >>>>I have a 97 metro 5 speed 1.0L and it runs fine. I am beginning to >>>>notice that whenever I downshift out of 3rd and 5th that I sometimes [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > nate None. I adjusted it all out. I plan on backing it all off tomorrow to see what that does. >> I have a 97 metro 5 speed 1.0L and it runs fine. I am beginning to notice >> that whenever I downshift out of 3rd and 5th that I sometimes have to tug [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > 140K is a pretty good run for a clutch - especially on a "disposable" > car like a Metro. Another thought. If it is related to the cable/clutch then why am I only experiencing it in 3rd and 5th gear? |
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