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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2006

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95 Buick Riviera - Coolant Leaking Into Cabin

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Uzume - 29 Aug 2006 18:36 GMT
It's a 1995 Buick Riviera w/Supercharger. Road trip from CA to Phoenix
and got an inch of coolant through the floor of the cabin. Water pump
just replaced after trip. No obvious leaks from radiator or coolant
reservoir. Any idea how to fix this? Does the radiator need flushing?
The car gets like .5 miles per gallon and is going through coolant like
crazy!
jeffcoslacker - 29 Aug 2006 19:36 GMT
Heater core blew up.

mileage may be due to running in low coolant 'limp home" mode where it
only feeds fuel to every other cylinder on every other revolution, back
and forth, to allow for air cooling in lieu of water cooling...serious
power loss and max speed of about 60 mph in this condition...

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Uzume - 29 Aug 2006 19:58 GMT
Heater core? Thanks! Now bear with me cause I'm a girl, but what is the
heater core?

I'm asking because it's my bf's car ,but he's kind of a stubborn DIYer
with no auto background (recently replaced the brake discs & water pump
himself). Is the heater core a goner and needs replacing or can it be
fixed? And is this a DIY kind of job or should we call in a
professional? Thanks guys!

> Heater core blew up.
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> http://www.automotiveforums.com
ray - 29 Aug 2006 20:13 GMT
> Heater core? Thanks! Now bear with me cause I'm a girl, but what is the
> heater core?
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> fixed? And is this a DIY kind of job or should we call in a
> professional? Thanks guys!

here's a pic and quick description.
http://autorepair.about.com/cs/generalinfo/l/bldef_299.htm?terms=heater+core

The heater core can be a diy job, it doesn't require a hoist or special
tools**, just a large collection of swear words as it's usually buried
under the dash.  My joke is the "core" in heater core is that's the core
piece of your car, they assemble the rest of the car around it.

**HOWEVER... some cars require disconnecting the A/C before removing the
heater core, which is NOT something most people can do at home.

Ray
jeffcoslacker - 29 Aug 2006 20:17 GMT
Uzume Wrote:
> Heater core? Thanks! Now bear with me cause I'm a girl, but what is the
> heater core?
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> >
> > 'http://www.automotiveforums.com' (http://www.automotiveforums.com)

Heater core is inside the dashboard. It's basically a small radiator,
hot coolant flows through it and warms the air blow though it by the
blower to give you heat in the car when you need it...coolant is always
circulating in it, and when the core corrodes and ruptures or a hose
comes off, it blows it out on the floor inside. (actually there is a
drain in that box, but a fast leak will overwhelm it)

They are generall a pain in the butt to replace...some cars worse than
others, not sure about yours.

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jeffcoslacker - 29 Aug 2006 20:22 GMT
jeffcoslacker Wrote:
> Heater core is inside the dashboard. It's basically a small radiator,
> hot coolant flows through it and warms the air blow though it by the
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> They are generall a pain in the butt to replace...some cars worse than
> others, not sure about yours.

Have him take a look at this....

http://tinyurl.com/ldfz8

They didn't have a repair guide for the SC Riviera, but the LeSabre
should be close...scroll down for your year...

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Uzume - 29 Aug 2006 20:54 GMT
Thanks Ray and Thanks Jeff, you guys are great! Now I know what we're
up against, I can do some research and weigh our options (DIY vs.
professional). Can't wait to get this fixed so I can stop shampooing
the carpets!

: )

> jeffcoslacker Wrote:
> > Heater core is inside the dashboard. It's basically a small radiator,
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>
> http://www.automotiveforums.com
ray - 29 Aug 2006 21:07 GMT
> Thanks Ray and Thanks Jeff, you guys are great! Now I know what we're
> up against, I can do some research and weigh our options (DIY vs.
> professional). Can't wait to get this fixed so I can stop shampooing
> the carpets!

What I've done in the past...
Call a garage and ask how much to replace the core.  (see if you can
find out how many hours involved.)
then call a parts place like autozone and price out just the core.

Then I do Price to have a pro do it - price for parts = labour cost
(roughly.)

Some cars are "easy" to do the core on, some cars require dismantling
half of the dashboard.

The reason for the "how many hours" gives you an idea of how complicated
it is... actually hooking up the core takes about 5 minutes.  The other
three hours is disassembly/reassembly.
Uzume - 29 Aug 2006 21:22 GMT
Yup - Already found the part on NAPAonline, $96.92. Now I'm waiting for
a call back from a garage on how much to install (and how long). I
think we can handle the dash but I'm not too crazy about dealing with
the A/C.

First place I called just called back with a quote: $500, about 5 hours
to pull the dash, etc. Guess I better start reading those
instructions!...

Got any recommendations for a good automotive toolkit brand - something
not too basic but not going to break easily or break the bank?

> > Thanks Ray and Thanks Jeff, you guys are great! Now I know what we're
> > up against, I can do some research and weigh our options (DIY vs.
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> it is... actually hooking up the core takes about 5 minutes.  The other
> three hours is disassembly/reassembly.
ray - 29 Aug 2006 22:33 GMT
> Yup - Already found the part on NAPAonline, $96.92. Now I'm waiting for
> a call back from a garage on how much to install (and how long). I
> think we can handle the dash but I'm not too crazy about dealing with
> the A/C.

Even though Haynes manuals aren't very good, swing by an autozone or
library... they'll probably tell you if you need to disconnect the AC or
not to change the heater core.
Uzume - 29 Aug 2006 23:15 GMT
Yeah, I got my boyfriend a manual from Pep Boys, must have been Haynes
because Kragen only carries the other one. He didn't even use it when
he replaced his rotors/brake pads. But I will check it out, will
probably come in handy. Thanks!

> > Yup - Already found the part on NAPAonline, $96.92. Now I'm waiting for
> > a call back from a garage on how much to install (and how long). I
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> library... they'll probably tell you if you need to disconnect the AC or
> not to change the heater core.
C. E. White - 29 Aug 2006 19:50 GMT
Duh - Heater Core!

Ed
> It's a 1995 Buick Riviera w/Supercharger. Road trip from CA to Phoenix
> and got an inch of coolant through the floor of the cabin. Water pump
> just replaced after trip. No obvious leaks from radiator or coolant
> reservoir. Any idea how to fix this? Does the radiator need flushing?
> The car gets like .5 miles per gallon and is going through coolant like
> crazy!
 
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