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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / September 2006

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Limited Slip Differential

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adla11 - 30 Aug 2006 17:57 GMT
Hi, does anyone have an opinion about this?   One mechanic I spoke to
said it's highly probable that the grinding sound I hear for the first
couple of minutes of driving the car (the sound then dissipates after a
couple of minutes) means that the LSD needs to be replaced.

Another said it MIGHT need to be replaced, but changing the diff oil
might solve the problem.

We're talking about a 1989 Toyota Cressida, with about 120,000/miles.

Neither of the mechs actually physically inspected the diff, but they
both DO know my car rather well.  I'm just not sure why one is so sure
it needs to be replaced.  Maybe it's based on the expected lifespan of
this part?

Thanksya for any ideas.
lptpsam - 30 Aug 2006 18:15 GMT
> Hi, does anyone have an opinion about this?   One mechanic I spoke to
> said it's highly probable that the grinding sound I hear for the first
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>
> Thanksya for any ideas.

   Based on my experience with domestic cars, I'd 1st check & see if Toyota
makes an additive for this diff'l.  Then chg. the diff'l. lube, using this
additive if it exists.  I've seen it quieten several GM's.  HTH,   s.
RayV - 31 Aug 2006 18:52 GMT
>     Based on my experience with domestic cars, I'd 1st check & see if Toyota
> makes an additive for this diff'l.  Then chg. the diff'l. lube, using this
> additive if it exists.  I've seen it quieten several GM's.  HTH,   s.

Put in a LS additive and top off the axle fluid and drive the car in a
figure 8 pattern in a parking lot at low speed.  Fixed my problem for
$10.
Steve - 30 Aug 2006 19:28 GMT
> Hi, does anyone have an opinion about this?   One mechanic I spoke to
> said it's highly probable that the grinding sound I hear for the first
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>
> Thanksya for any ideas.

LSD's can be noisy. They have either cone-type or multi-plate clutches
that can chatter under certain conditions, but ONLY when turning a
corner so that the rear wheels are spinning at different speeds. If your
car is grinding when driving in a straight line, I'd doubt that its a
problem with the LSD. Also, did Toyota Cressidas even *have* LSDs as an
option? And with 120k miles, I'd be highly doubtful that the LSD would
even still be working, at least not well. They typically need to be
re-clutched or replaced (the cone-type generally don't have replaceable
clutches) around every 100k miles.
Ad absurdum per aspera - 01 Sep 2006 03:46 GMT
> Also, did Toyota Cressidas even *have* LSDs as an  option?

Some Toyotas of the era certainly had it as an option in differentials
or transaxles.  I discovered this when perusing an owner's manual,
perhaps for one of the family fleet of late 80s Camrys, perhaps for a
'90 Corolla -- if memory serves, all Canadian models got the traction
device on whatever car that was, though it was an option (and in my
experience not a terribly common one) on US versions.

There seems to be considerable interest in the subject among
aficionados of the Toyota Supra, which, in its post Celica days, I
think was a platform cousin of the Cressida.
John S. - 30 Aug 2006 19:30 GMT
Ask the mechanic to attach switchable microphones to various parts of
the car then take it for a drive.  He should be able to isolate the
source quickly.

> Hi, does anyone have an opinion about this?   One mechanic I spoke to
> said it's highly probable that the grinding sound I hear for the first
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>
> Thanksya for any ideas.
Elbert - 31 Aug 2006 02:17 GMT
Did that model car come with limited slip?

I guess that's what you are referring to.  If the car does
have limited slip and its making the noise then I doubt changing the
fluid would have any effect.

Usually noise from the "rear-end" is a bad thing and translates
into $$$.

I think it would be rather easy to figure out if noise was coming from
the rear differential..

I would want someone to look at the car first hand to confirm that the
problem is in the "rear".

>Hi, does anyone have an opinion about this?   One mechanic I spoke to
>said it's highly probable that the grinding sound I hear for the first
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>
>Thanksya for any ideas.

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Bob Urz - 31 Aug 2006 04:56 GMT
> Hi, does anyone have an opinion about this?   One mechanic I spoke to
> said it's highly probable that the grinding sound I hear for the first
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>
> Thanks for any ideas.

Replace the fluids, and drive it until it dies.......
a 1989 is not worth putting tons of money into.

Bob
 
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