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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2006

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overheating problem with 350 small block can someone help please??

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Cutlass87 - 31 Aug 2006 15:38 GMT
Dear Reader,
        I own a 1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 2dr RWD.  When i bought it
the stock engine was already swapped.  I did a tune up on it (just plugs
wires and coil) and in the midst of trying to get the right parts for the
tune up i was able to identify the motor that is in there as a Chevy 350
small block from like a 1990-1993 chevy pickup (it has fuel injectives).  I
also replaced the radiator with a brand new radiator.  I had been driving the
car back and forth to work every other day approximately 30-35 miles one way.
The engine sounded fine and ran fine, matter of fact i was outrunning most of
the new stuff on the freeway.  One day i overheated about 5 mins from home so
i pulled over let it cool off and took it home.  Since then i replace the
thermostat and went about driving it for about 4 more days until it ran hot
again.  i was running with out a overflow tank so the hose that i had
blocking off the overflow passage had burst and i lost all my coolant out the
passage where the overflow tank was suppposed to go.  i bought an overflow
tank, replaced the radiator cap, and refilled the radiator again, and
replaced with yet another thermostat.  it ran hot again, but it takes it like
a good 5 or ten miles of strenuous driving b4 it runs hot but when it does
run hot all the coolant bubles into the overflow tank then out the overflow
tank along with steam.  I totally removed the thermostat while it was hot one
day and held it up to cool air with tounges and watched it close so i knew it
wasnt the thermostat.  i ran it without the thermostat at all for 5 to 10
miles and it overheated again.  i checked the oil, there is no sludge or
signes of moisture, the coolant looks fine but i loose almost all of it out
the overflow tank everytime i run hot, and there is no water coming from my
dual pipes.  This is soooo frustrating because i have put so much time and
money into the interior because i thought the motor was straight.  I love
this car, what could it be, how do i fix this???? im no novice mechanic but i
will get under that hood and go to work, somebody help please.  Please tell
me its not a head gasket!!!!!!!! whoever put that engine in did such a good
job converting it and getting her running right, can you help,  keep in mind
she still runs strong as a bull, she just overheats too quick.
ray - 31 Aug 2006 16:17 GMT
> Dear Reader,
>          I own a 1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 2dr RWD.  When i bought it
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> The engine sounded fine and ran fine, matter of fact i was outrunning most of
> the new stuff on the freeway.  One day i overheated about 5 mins from home so

<snip>

airflow.  Is the rad blocked?  Look between the A/C condensor and the
rad to make sure you don't have a plastic bag jammed in there or something.

fan - clutch fan?  Is it working properly?  Do you have a shroud?

What does the temp gauge do?  read normal and then spike?  keep climbing?

Are you sure the rad is big enough?  you might need a 3 or 4 core rad in
there if you're making a lot of power and throwing off a lot of heat
compared to the stock 305 that was in there.

last, but not least... timing and carb jetting - if your timing is way
agressive, you can start running hot.

I suspect it's probably your new rad just is too small for the amount of
heat you're making.

Ray
Cutlass87 - 31 Aug 2006 16:50 GMT
>> Dear Reader,
>>          I own a 1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 2dr RWD.  When i bought it
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>Ray

Thanks for your reply Ray! yes its a clutch fan, and it is working fine and
spins strong, i put a fan shroud on and i havent notice anything blocking the
radiator,  is there anything else that i can do to ensure that i don't have
head gasket problems because i don't think it is, yet i cant get the engine
to run at the correct temperature.  Unfortunately i don't have a guage ( i
probably need to put one on there) I just have a light that will come on if
the car has been ran too hot
jeffcoslacker - 31 Aug 2006 18:04 GMT
Cutlass87 Wrote:
> >> Dear Reader,
> >> I own a 1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 2dr RWD. When i bought it
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
> Go back to basics, verify everything, it will lead you to the
> answer....

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ray - 31 Aug 2006 18:37 GMT
>> Ray
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> probably need to put one on there) I just have a light that will come on if
> the car has been ran too hot

I think a compression test can diagnose a blown headgasket.
Or a leakdown test.

And/or if you pull the plugs, if one of them looks like it's been
steamcleaned then it's a sign of water getting in there.

I'd consider getting a cheap $10 mechanical gauge and see what's going on...
Heyjohn - 31 Aug 2006 23:49 GMT
> Thanks for your reply Ray! yes its a clutch fan, and it is working fine and
> spins strong, i put a fan shroud on and i havent notice anything blocking the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> probably need to put one on there) I just have a light that will come on if
> the car has been ran too hot

Seems to me, you're avoiding the obvious, the water pump. I've seen
older ones
with the impeller almost worn to nothing. Have a peek, but have a new
gasket
ready when you do. And.... consider running the engine hard with the
rad cap off.
When hot you should see movement in the top of the radiator when the
thermostat
opens.
. . . my two cents.
 
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