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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / September 2006

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compression readings, cold vs. hot

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njot - 02 Sep 2006 19:20 GMT
Can anyone tell me if it is normal to have widely varying compression
readings if you check a cold motor vs. a hot one?

This is an overhead valve pushrod motor with hydraulic lifters.

With the engine cold, readings vary from as low as 30 to as high as 140
psi, but with the motor warmed up, readings are between 135 and 140 psi
on all cylinders.

Why is this?  Is this a cause for concern?
ray - 02 Sep 2006 21:11 GMT
> Can anyone tell me if it is normal to have widely varying compression
> readings if you check a cold motor vs. a hot one?
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> Why is this?  Is this a cause for concern?

30-140 is too big of a range for a compression test - you should see no
more than 10% variance.

I suggest posting the results for all cylinders hot & cold, and telling
us what kind of motor (Chevy V8?) it is.

How does it run?

I'm not qualified to tell you why the huge difference cold vs hot.

The two things I can think of - head gasket if two adjoining cylinders
are low, possibly misadjusted valvetrain.

Ray
ed - 03 Sep 2006 00:58 GMT
AS long as the 140 is happening at the right time, and its running good, I
dont see a problem. You have 140 hot and cold.
The 30 is a throwaway number if its happening any other time other than on
the compression stroke, but are you saying one of the cylinders is reading
30 MAX when old?  that IS a problem.

> Can anyone tell me if it is normal to have widely varying compression
> readings if you check a cold motor vs. a hot one?
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> Why is this?  Is this a cause for concern?
njot - 03 Sep 2006 03:31 GMT
It's the GM 2.5 L 4 cyl.

Engine cold (sat unused a few days), I got:

#1 - 140 psi, #2 - 82 psi, #3 - 52 psi, #4 - 32 psi.

I triple checked the readings and used 2 different gauges to make sure
I was right.

Engine hot, I got:

#1 - 140 psi, #2 - 135 psi, #3 - 135 psi, #4 - 135 psi.

The car runs fine, has decent pickup, and gets good gas mileage, it is
just that it has a miss/sputter at idle that I decided to track down.
It is not a consistent, steady miss, it is more occasional.  I thought
I had a vacuum leak, but checked the hoses and intake gasket, and my
plugs/wires are new.

Someone was telling me that this is the reason you don't check
compression cold- that you need the oil around the rings which would
have drained away from the engine sitting a few days.  Also that
hydraulic lifter bleed down would contribute to this.

Is this true?

> AS long as the 140 is happening at the right time, and its running good, I
> dont see a problem. You have 140 hot and cold.
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> > Why is this?  Is this a cause for concern?
 
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