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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / September 2006

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Question about power steering hose

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j - 04 Sep 2006 02:54 GMT
My 1978 Ford pickup has a power steering hose that is made of aluminum with
a short length of rubber hose between the aluminum parts. The aluminum part
that screws onto the power steering pump has a crack and leaks right where
the end is "flared" out. It this the kind of thing that I can take to a
mechanic shop and have the bad end cut off and reflared, or do I have to go
buy a new hose? Thank you.
jeffcoslacker - 04 Sep 2006 04:16 GMT
j Wrote:
> My 1978 Ford pickup has a power steering hose that is made of aluminum
> with
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> to go
> buy a new hose? Thank you.

Not sure without seeing it, but if fatigue cracked it, flaring the
remaining part is asking for trouble...but stuff like that, if it's
ridiculously expensive for the replacement part, you can take it to a
hydraulic supply or farm implement store and have it custom made, they
have the fittings and ferrules and can make damn near anything dirt
cheap...and usually better quality than OE.

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* - 04 Sep 2006 11:54 GMT
jeffcoslacker <jeffcoslacker.2dlbni@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in article

> Not sure without seeing it, but if fatigue cracked it, flaring the
> remaining part is asking for trouble...but stuff like that, if it's
> ridiculously expensive for the replacement part, you can take it to a
> hydraulic supply or farm implement store and have it custom made, they
> have the fittings and ferrules and can make damn near anything dirt
> cheap...and usually better quality than OE.

Since most power steering hose ends are unique, I doubt if the average
hydraulics shop or farm supply house that makes generic hydrauilic hoses
will have them in stock.

You'll probably have to go to an auto parts store such as a NAPA or
Carquest to find someone who stocks the correct power steering hose ends.
jeffcoslacker - 04 Sep 2006 14:32 GMT
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> jeffcoslacker <jeffcoslacker.2dlbni@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in article
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> Carquest to find someone who stocks the correct power steering hose
> ends.

Duh? Hello? Hydraulics shop. That's what they deal in...and there is
nothing unique about P/S fittings...they are standard hydraulic
parts....sheesh...:rofl:

BTW, those same places can build you an A/C hose MUCH cheaper than an
OE replacement from a parts store also....

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* - 04 Sep 2006 16:03 GMT
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> * Wrote:
> > jeffcoslacker <jeffcoslacker.2dlbni@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in article
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> BTW, those same places can build you an A/C hose MUCH cheaper than an
> OE replacement from a parts store also....

So, every hydraulics shop has the different lengths and bends that make up
Power Steering hose ends????

They all carry the inverted flare and bubble flare - 37° and 45° - SAE,
JIP, and metric?

Most of the hydraulics shop in my neck of the woods are too busy with
standard hydraulics work to be bothered with stocking a whole different
line of automotive stuff.

And, Power Steering fittings are "standard" hydraulics fittings?

How about the steel Ford PS Hose end that runs along the frame rail and up
along the firewall?....or any of the nearly 12-inch-long power steering
hose ends bent to fit in one particular application?

If it is all so simple, why are there so many part numbers for power
steering hoses?

A hydraulics shop MIGHT be able to put an end on that screws into the
component, and sorta' seals but, oftentimes, the thick hose will NOT fit in
the defined space, bend a tight-enough radius to clear components, OR the
hose runs close to a heat source that would fry the hose itself,  so the
steel line is extended, bent, and shaped in such a way as to actually FIT
the application CORRECTLY!

Funny, used to make hydraulic hoses ranging from one-quarter to over
one-inch in size when I ran a NAPA store, and I could NOT order ANY of
those PS Hose ends through Weatherhead - ONLY through NAPA steering.

And, when I used to go to Genalco outside Boston to get hydraulic hsoes,
they ALWAYS turned down power steering hoses saying that they did NOT have
the correct ends.

And, as far as A/C hoses go, the hydraulics shop would need to carry
specific hoses and ends.

Hydraulic hose and A/C hose are two different things entirely.

Maybe you ought to stick your nose into a hydraulic hose and fitting
catalog for a few minutes.

Duh!!!!

But, what else can one expect from an automotiveforums regular who is so
proud of his lifestyle that he uses it in his user id - slacker?

I predict traffic will slow down here once all these kids that think they
know it all go back to school.
jeffcoslacker - 05 Sep 2006 14:18 GMT
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> jeffcoslacker <jeffcoslacker.2dm4cq@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in article
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> they
> know it all go back to school.

Worked for years and years in garages and parts stores myself (kid? I
wish:lol: )...if we didn't stock it or it wasn't available, and the
account needed it NOW, guess where we went and had it made?

Maybe you didn't have access to the level of high-volume and wide range
of suppliers we did...I could have a P/S or A/C hose made at any of half
a dozen different suppliers locally..one specialized in all things
hydraulic, refigeration and hot/caustic fluid transfer...never seen
them stumped for a fitting or a shape in 24 years of dealing with
them...and like I said, usually at a fraction of the cost of an OE type
part...especially on something as old as what he's working on, I see no
problem.

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Don - 04 Sep 2006 13:31 GMT
>My 1978 Ford pickup has a power steering hose that is made of aluminum with
>a short length of rubber hose between the aluminum parts. The aluminum part
>that screws onto the power steering pump has a crack and leaks right where
>the end is "flared" out. It this the kind of thing that I can take to a
>mechanic shop and have the bad end cut off and reflared, or do I have to go
>buy a new hose? Thank you.

Unless this hose has become obsolete it will not cost much at all to
buy an entire hose.  I would have checked price/availability but the
engine size was not included in the post.

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