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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / September 2006

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2000 Ford Windstar - engine clatter during cold start

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Vito - 10 Sep 2006 05:35 GMT
I have a 2000 Windstar with 103,000 miles on it.  It has started to
make a sound during cold start like there is a small chain hanging off
the fan as the engine begins to turn.  It almost sounds like a broken
timing chain clacking around in the engine.  After the start cycle is
complete and the engine stabilizes at idle, the noise stops.  It will
not repeat this until the engine is cold again.  My gut tells me this
is the starter but I just don't know.  Anyone have any experience with
this type of noise?
jeffcoslacker - 10 Sep 2006 06:08 GMT
Vito Wrote:
> I have a 2000 Windstar with 103,000 miles on it. It has started to
> make a sound during cold start like there is a small chain hanging off
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> is the starter but I just don't know. Anyone have any experience with
> this type of noise?

It could be a starter issue, but my guess would be that the timing
chain tensioner, which I believe is hydraulically pumped into
compression against the chain, is failing and taking it's time coming
into contact and controlling chain slop...the chain will make
clattering/ratcheting sounds iuntil full oil pressure hits it when this
happens...

Other things to look at would be a fan clutch that is failing, or even
a water pump going bad, that will sometimes create quite a clatter on
cold start, but there'd usually be some leakage associated with it.

Occaisionally a serp belt with coolant leaked on it or a failing serp
belt tensioner will clatter loudly on cold start as well...

A quick way to tell would be to remove the serp, if the noise is gone,
you know it's belt related...at any rate, with the belt-driven
accessories stationary, you'll be able to hear more of where the sound
comes from if it's still there, without the roar of the fan and the
movement of all the pulleys...

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Vito - 12 Sep 2006 01:56 GMT
> Vito Wrote:
> > I have a 2000 Windstar with 103,000 miles on it. It has started to
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I spent some time this weekend troubleshootiing this noise and found
that it os coming from the drivers side of the engine compartment or
transmission end of the engine.  It only does it one time on cool sart
and then it is fine on restart.  Is the timing chain tensioner in this
area and can it be checked in any way?
jeffcoslacker - 12 Sep 2006 03:29 GMT
Vito Wrote:
> > Vito Wrote:
> > > I have a 2000 Windstar with 103,000 miles on it. It has started to
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> and then it is fine on restart. Is the timing chain tensioner in this
> area and can it be checked in any way?

No, a chain noise would come from dirctly up front, behind the fan and
water pump...it may be the starter, if it's on that side...

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Telstar Electronics - 11 Sep 2006 12:54 GMT
> I have a 2000 Windstar with 103,000 miles on it.  It has started to
> make a sound during cold start like there is a small chain hanging off
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> is the starter but I just don't know.  Anyone have any experience with
> this type of noise?

Sounds like it could be the starter drive mechanism... perhaps the
one-way clutch is failing.

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