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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / January 2006What is distilled water?
Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? no that is condensed water.... > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? Distilled means collected from the air, don't know what condensed water is, maybe 'heavy water' they use in the nuck plants? I mean it does have a cold coil to 'condense' water out of the air at a certain temperature, but so does a liquor distiller. They have coils to 'condense' the alcohol out of the air at a certain temperature. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > no that is condensed water.... > > > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? Water out of a de-humidifier can potentially be distilled but more than likely a de-humidifier will also attract dirt and other foreign objects that float in the air with the water vapor. Distilled means to separate or purify... Like another poster said, it's pure water. One way to get pure water is to allow it to evaporate into vapor and then let the water condense back into liquid form. Another way is to filter all the impurities out of the water. -Bruce > Distilled means collected from the air, don't know what condensed water > is, maybe 'heavy water' they use in the nuck plants? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? Yes. Works great for rads and batteries. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? It should be pretty much (well, if you don't count any mold, dust, or other contaminants that may have gotten in there..) As for what it is, it's just water that doesn't contain any dissolved salts, minerals, etc, just pure H2O..  SignatureRobert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/ > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? I used to make distilled water a long time ago when I was in chemistry class. Here's a good definition of distillation, the process used to get distilled water. dis.til.la.tion Pronunciation: (dis"tl-A'shun) -n. 1. the volatilization or evaporation and subsequent condensation of a liquid, as when water is boiled in a retort and the steam is condensed in a cool receiver. 2. the purification or concentration of a substance, the obtaining of the essence or volatile properties contained in it, or the separation of one substance from another, by such a process. 3. a product of distilling; distillate. 4. the act or fact of distilling or the state of being distilled. For automotive uses, the water that is produced by a dehumidifier should be fine. Just make sure no foreign objects i.e., insect bodies, have gotten into it. Ken EF> Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? For all (automotive related) practical purposes, yes. So is rain water, but that just picks up more pollution on the way down... I use de-humidifier water all the time in cooling systems. -Bela I am not going to read all the replies, or go into a missive about distillation techniques etc. However, do a quick google search on "distilled water". I found a succinct definition (plus a bunch of blatant advertising" at www.nutriteam.com/distillerfaq.htm - it seems to be some firm flogging (sorry, I mean advertising for sale) water distillers. Hope this helps. Ken > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? > I am not going to read all the replies, or go into a missive about > distillation techniques etc. However, do a quick google search on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? Deioinized water is the same as distilled water (it's made differently) and so is water made by reverse osmosis. cheers >> I am not going to read all the replies, or go into a missive about >> distillation techniques etc. However, do a quick google search on [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Deioinized water is the same as distilled water (it's made differently) and > so is water made by reverse osmosis. Actually it is not. Common misunderstanding. Distilled water is first boiled to steam, which leaves pretty much all mineral content behind. Also leaves behind most of the organics, depending on how the still is set up, those with boiling points much higher than 100C. Can leave behind even more, but for anything but a chem lab, why bother. Fairly cheap process. > >> I am not going to read all the replies, or go into a missive about > >> distillation techniques etc. However, do a quick google search on [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > even more, but for anything but a chem lab, why bother. > Fairly cheap process. Sure, but a cooling system wouldn't be able to tell the difference. > > >> I am not going to read all the replies, or go into a missive about > > >> distillation techniques etc. However, do a quick google search on [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > Sure, but a cooling system wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Sure it will. You can't ionize or filter out minerals. There is a very big difference between filtering and distillation. With distilling you remove the mineral content (which is what is 'bad' for the cooling system). Your cooling system does not care how the water tastes. It just doesn't want all the mineral scale buildup. I had a hell of a time keeping my cappuccino machine from clogging up (we have hard water). Since I've started using distilled water I've never had to clean it. BTW: any company who sells you ionized water and calls it distilled oughtta be sued. There's no substitute for distilling when it comes to removing minerals. Unless you are actually combining H and O2 to make it pure. A water softener removes minerals... but it replaces them with other minerals (usually potassium salt or sodium salt). snip BTW: any company who sells you ionized water and calls it > distilled oughtta be sued. There's no substitute for distilling when it comes to removing minerals. Unless you are actually combining H and O2 to make it pure. It's not "ionized" water - it's "deionized" water. A deionizer removes minerals, or it should, if it's not exhausted I'll have to check that out. Thanks! > snip > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It's not "ionized" water - it's "deionized" water. A deionizer removes > minerals, or it should, if it's not exhausted > I had a hell of a time keeping my cappuccino machine from clogging up (we > have hard water). Since I've started using distilled water I've never had to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > A water softener removes minerals... but it replaces them with other > minerals (usually potassium salt or sodium salt). Very correct. It depends what you want your treated water to do. If you don't want mineral scale, you remove the scale forming ions such as calcium, bicarbonate or carbonate, sulfate, silicate, magnesium, and others. This may also help the taste of the water. (Strangely, some really heavily mineralized water sometimes makes excellent coffee) One would hypothesize that distilled or deionized water would also be less corrosive than water containing minerals. Not necessarily so. Sometimes distilled, deionized, or RO water can be quite corrosive. Corrosion inhibitors, or mineral additives, are sometimes added to certain systems to reduce the corrosive attack.. Mist from a humidifier might well not be the same as distilled. Some of those things just fog water droplets into the room. The heated units we call vaporizers in the USA actually do distill the water, and if you set up a rig to capture the condensed vapors in a glass or plastic container, you would have fair quality 'distilled' water. > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? yes it is distilled. But not very well. if you can get it back into the air and de-humidified several times, then it will be better distilled. Which is how a still works sort of. SignatureThank you, CL Gilbert "Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16 >> Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? > > yes it is distilled. But not very well. if you can get it back into the > air and de-humidified several times, then it will be better distilled. > Which is how a still works sort of. I've worked at a couple of places where an Innowave distilling machine was leased. The first time, I swear the water tasted like plastic and metal. I think it was a new machine, and the taste of the new materials was probably leaching into the water. The one at my current workplace tastes just fine. It's cheaper than the bottled water that used to be delivered. Sometimes people forget to drain the boiler tank when a light goes on. It stops distilling at that point. The stuff that comes out of the boiler drain is a deep yellow color similar to another common yellow liquid. I've actually used a small amount of this distilled water to top off my coolant overflow tank. I put melted snow in my battery. > > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? > > yes it is distilled. But not very well. if you can get it back into the > air and de-humidified several times, then it will be better distilled. > Which is how a still works sort of. Nope, again. 'Getting it back into the air and de-humidified several times' is mumbojumbo. Now, you may KNOW what you wanted to say, but you sure as heck didnt manage to say it. >>>Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Now, you may KNOW what you wanted to say, but you sure > as heck didnt manage to say it. Yea yea yea, dehumidifer, evaporator, whats the difference? Just trying to stick to the tools introudced to answer the question as best as possible. SignatureThank you, CL Gilbert "Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16 > Yea yea yea, dehumidifer, evaporator, whats the difference? Well, one is a dehumidifier. The other is an evaporator. Similar, but different. > Just trying to stick to the tools introudced to answer the question as > best as possible. They don't grant EE degrees like the one you claim to have unless you have a grownup level of literacy. What else are you lying about? >> Yea yea yea, dehumidifer, evaporator, whats the difference? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > They don't grant EE degrees like the one you claim to have unless you > have a grownup level of literacy. I dunno. Some of my foreign teaching/lab assistants at UC Berkeley couldn't easily converse in English. Primarily the ones from China. The TAs from India were fine except some had very thick accents. > > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? > > yes it is distilled. But not very well. if you can get it back into the > air and de-humidified several times, then it will be better distilled. > Which is how a still works sort of. I don't quite understand what you mean. Be careful of the Legionnaire's Disease in the dehumidifier. «» wrote: > > > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I don't quite understand what you mean. > Be careful of the Legionnaire's Disease in the dehumidifier. I remember some building in Richmond, California that had an outbreak of Legionnaire's. It was growing in the HVAC system. The solution was to wipe the system components thoroughly with Cascade diswashing detergent, which at the time contained chlorine bleach. At this time, they'd probably uses straight bleach or some other disinfecting product. > > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? > > yes it is distilled. But not very well. if you can get it back into the > air and de-humidified several times, then it will be better distilled. > Which is how a still works sort of. Water which has been condensed from the vapor in air, as in a dehumidifier, is basically the same as distilled water as far as soluble mineral salts are concerned. This water will be saturated with gases such as CO2, oxygen, nitrogen, etc in equilibrium with the air. It can also be contaminated with dust and other particulate matter from the air unless special care is taken to exclude it, and it may also become contaminated with metal ions from the heat exchange surfaces in the dehumidifier. SO, it won't be pristine conductivity grade water, but it will be purer than dipping in out of a creek. >> > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > SO, it won't be pristine conductivity grade water, but it will be purer > than dipping in out of a creek. Thank you for that answer... I was wondering when someone was going to answer the question.... Fwed This IS the CORRECT answer... I always use dehumidifier water in my battery and radiator. DG, MD > > > Is the water that comes out of a de-humidifier distilled? > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > SO, it won't be pristine conductivity grade water, but it will be purer > than dipping in out of a creek. "I always use dehumidifier water in my battery and radiator." Right on! Professor www.telstar-electronics.com |
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