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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / September 2006

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roaring noise sounds like old hard tires ( but isn't )

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kappo50@yahoo.com - 26 Sep 2006 17:56 GMT
Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
30 mph and lightly apply the brakes the noise goes away.
So I'm thinking tranny.  But this morning at 60 on the freeway
it lessened a little when the road curved ...........so front
end ?  Something else ?  Just had it tuned up and it's
running great, just passed smog, and new brakes 10K
miles ago.  107 K miles, I've never had the tranny serviced.
Any guesses ?  '94 Aerostar btw  

thanks
me@privacy.net - 26 Sep 2006 18:15 GMT
> Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
> was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
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>
> thanks

Wheel bearings, maybe?  (Front or rear.)
Scott Dorsey - 26 Sep 2006 18:35 GMT
>Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
>was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
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>miles ago.  107 K miles, I've never had the tranny serviced.
>Any guesses ?  '94 Aerostar btw  

Check the wheel bearings.  If a bearing was really bad, they should have
noticed it when they changed the tires, but they may not have.

If it's the transmission or the differential, you can drive it until it
finally fails.  If it's the wheel bearing, you do NOT want to be driving
it when it fails.

If you have 107K miles and have never changed the transmission fluid,
it might be time to do so.  I assume you have an automatic?
--scott

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phaeton - 26 Sep 2006 19:10 GMT
> If it's the transmission or the differential, you can drive it until it
> finally fails.  If it's the wheel bearing, you do NOT want to be driving
> it when it fails.

Although, sometimes differentials fail by locking up solid.  That gets
a little inconvenient at highway speeds.

Sounds like wheel bearings to me too.  Try this:  get it going in
reverse at a pretty good clip, and see what the noise does when you
step on the brakes.  If it gets louder when braking in reverse, but
quieter when braking going forward, it might be the rear bearings.

Is this an Aerostar with all-wheel-drive, btw?
Lawrence Glickman - 27 Sep 2006 01:21 GMT
>>Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
>>was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
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>finally fails.  If it's the wheel bearing, you do NOT want to be driving
>it when it fails.

I'll second that.  In fact, you can pull the bearing and just replace
the dang thing if you have a service manual.  It ain't rocket science,
and like Scott says, you don't want to lose a bearing while at highway
speed, or I will add, ANY speed.

Lg

>If you have 107K miles and have never changed the transmission fluid,
>it might be time to do so.  I assume you have an automatic?
>--scott
jpocao@gmail.com - 26 Sep 2006 19:01 GMT
wheel bearing gaurantee

> Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
> was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> thanks
Lawrence Glickman - 27 Sep 2006 01:28 GMT
>wheel bearing gaurantee

My thinking, having BTDT, is that this needs _immediate_
attention...either by a registered mechanic or the OP if he has a high
skill level and the right tools.

Lg

>> Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
>> was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> thanks
EatMe - 27 Sep 2006 01:28 GMT
> Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
> was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> thanks

My 1990 FWD Protege made the same sound at 220K miles and it was the
rear (lifetime) bearings.  Louder on left hand curves...quieter on
right hand.
Steve - 27 Sep 2006 15:04 GMT
> Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
> was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
> 30 mph and lightly apply the brakes the noise goes away.
> So I'm thinking tranny.

Why suspect the transmission?

  But this morning at 60 on the freeway
> it lessened a little when the road curved ...........so front
> end ?  Something else ?  Just had it tuned up and it's
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> thanks

Wheel bearing. Putting on the brakes or going around a corner alters the
loading of the wheel bearing, therefore altering the sound.

Now you gotta find out which one.
Lawrence Glickman - 27 Sep 2006 15:33 GMT
>> Just put on 4 new tires.  I had thought the roaring noise
>> was from the 8 year old tires, but it's still there.  If I'm going
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>Now you gotta find out which one.

To do that, you can jack each wheel off the ground, get the weight of
the wheel/tire OFF the hub/bearing ass'y, ( use a hydraulic jack ),
and grab the tire by the top/bottom, and rock it.  If it rocks, you
got a problem.  Grab it horizontally left/right.  Rock it.  If it
rocks, you got a problem.  

You might just put enough hydraulic pressure under the tire to begin
moving the strut/shock.  Just at that point...do the rock-it test.

I don't know about your car, if you have an inner / outer tapered
bearing, or if it is or isn't loaded.  My guess is it is one bearing,
in the hub, not loaded.  You usually just replace the hub and bearing
as an ass'y, AFAIK.

Now someone is going to say, no, you can take/push the bearing out.
Depends on the vehicle.  On my car, just get a new hub/bearing assy,
pre-lubed at the factory, and pop it on.

Lg
 
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