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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / October 2006Eibach ProKit vs H&R Sport Springs
I've decided to get some lowering springs for my Grand Am, but I was wondering if any of you had any opinions to which one has a better ride? Both seem like a good choice, but I'm not sure as to which one is better quality, ride, etc. Any ideas? waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article <1159730118.675260.89060@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > I've decided to get some lowering springs for my Grand Am, but I was > wondering if any of you had any opinions to which one has a better > ride? Both seem like a good choice, but I'm not sure as to which one is > better quality, ride, etc. Any ideas? AREN'T YOU THE GUY WHO WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT STIFF REPLACEMENT SHOCKS???? And, now you're asking advice on how to stiffen up your suspension???? Are you some kind of a TROLL???? Shorter, stiffer, "performance" springs are NOT the answer....... As far as which has the better ride, I'm going to say neither.......Your stock OEM setup will be much better. And, PLEASE do not get on here after installing one of these "kits" complaining about how stiff the ride is....... .....not unless you are prepared to be flamed into oblivion, that is. > waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article > <1159730118.675260.89060@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > .....not unless you are prepared to be flamed into oblivion, that is. Well, you sure are friendly... Yeah, I am getting aftermarket springs, do you have a problem with it? I was asking for opinions on the matter, not someone freaking out on me because I asked for some advice. All I stated in my previous post was that the ride was pretty stiff with the crappy gabriels, and now that I have an OEM setup, my style of driving is causing wallowing in the corners, hence the reason why I want lowering "kits" waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article <1159815792.035051.186890@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>... > > waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article > > <1159730118.675260.89060@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > because I asked for some advice. All I stated in my previous post was > that the ride was pretty stiff with the crappy gabriels, If you think you had a "crappy" ride with the Gabriels, just wait until you get the lowering kit installed, Bucko! You are in for a giant - probably expen$ive - lesson in ride technology. > and now that I > have an OEM setup, my style of driving is causing wallowing in the > corners, hence the reason why I want lowering "kits" But, your ride preferences do not coincide with your alleged handling preferences..... If you want to drive it hard, you will need to tolerate a stiffer suspension....... If you want a softer ride, you will need to tolerate less precise handling...... There are no compromises...... Better handling requires stiffer ride while softer ride sacrifices handling....period. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.....(old proverb) > waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article > <1159815792.035051.186890@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > You cannot have your cake and eat it too.....(old proverb) Yeah, Well I have the OEM setup now, and it rides exactly the same as before, which confuses me. I do not understand how there can be absolutely no difference in ride. Answer this for me: I press down on the front of the car, and can get hardly any "flex" out of the suspension, why is this? I've tried this on similar Grand Am's and they have MUCH more flex in their suspensions, even the new/tight 05's. Why is this? waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article <1159838536.680160.198650@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>... > Yeah, Well I have the OEM setup now, and it rides exactly the same as > before, which confuses me. I do not understand how there can be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > have MUCH more flex in their suspensions, even the new/tight 05's. Why > is this? I already mentioned a number of possibilities in answer to your original post...... .....didn't you read them? Or is everybody just wasting their time trying to help you out while you run off and post opposing statements? > > waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article > > <1159730118.675260.89060@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Well, you sure are friendly... > Yeah, I am getting aftermarket springs, do you have a problem with it? No, but you will, according to what he's saying. > I was asking for opinions on the matter, not someone freaking out on me > because I asked for some advice. All I stated in my previous post was > that the ride was pretty stiff with the crappy gabriels, and now that I > have an OEM setup, my style of driving is causing wallowing in the > corners, hence the reason why I want lowering "kits" And you somehow think that the lowering springs won't cause a stiff ride? I can tell you from personal experience with the H&R Sports on a VW Scirocco that they will a) make your car ride like it has no springs at all and b) handle like a freakin' slot car. Of course, you have a Grand Am so "like a slot car" is relative, but I can state with pretty good assurance that if you didn't like well-damped shocks, you REALLY won't like "sport" springs. I don't know if you can get something like Neuspeed SofSports for your car but that may be a compromise (although I still suspect that you won't be happy with the ride.) I'm not knocking the H&R springs, far from it. I loved my old roccet and it put a smile on my face every time I drove it. I'm just saying that based on your previous posts that this is not the suspension setup for you. I'd stick with stock and save my money for a car that has better handling from the factory, if you find yourself driving too aggressively for the car. nate > > > waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article > > > <1159730118.675260.89060@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > nate Yeah I did read your other posts actually. And I did go with an OEM setup, as many of you suggested. Didn't you read MY response on that post? Apparantly not. If your wasting your time reading my posts then why don't you just go "give your excellent advice on how much of a troll they are, or complaining about me starting a new post about a subject completely different from the previous post?" Anyways, Thanks for the advice Nate. I do understand your point you are trying to make, and I believe that I will stick with the stock springs. Thanks again. > waterboy44@mail.com wrote in article > <1159730118.675260.89060@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > .....not unless you are prepared to be flamed into oblivion, that is. Well, you sure are friendly... Yeah, I am getting aftermarket springs, do you have a problem with it? I was asking for opinions on the matter, not someone freaking out on me because I asked for some advice. All I stated in my previous post was that the ride was pretty stiff with the crappy gabriels, and now that I have an OEM setup, my style of driving is causing wallowing in the corners, hence the reason why I want lowering "kits" |
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