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stewsclues@yahoo.com - 14 Oct 2006 22:06 GMT
Greetings,
 I recently found quite a lot of brand new tires (still have stickers)
in the tire recycling bin. There are several manufacturers and types,
so I do not think it is due to a recall. They are in sets of 2 or 4, so
not oddballs. The only guess I have is their manufacture date. Several
have stickers with a date in the 2002 range. Do tires "expire"?
 Anyway, I pulled out 4 sets of 4 that are pretty common 14 and 15"
sizes. Any thoughts on the legality of selling these as "used" tires. I
figure $100-$150 a set would sell pretty quick (especially since all
are name brand all season tires and bad weather is just around the
corner). Maybe some extra Christmas $$. Just wish I had found them a
few months ago when I put lesser quality tires of the same size on my
car for $280.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Chris
jcr - 14 Oct 2006 23:27 GMT
> Greetings,
>   I recently found quite a lot of brand new tires (still have stickers)
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> Chris

Tires do age.  Dry-rot, hardening and cracking of the rubber compound is
the most common condition of aged tires.
Ulf - 15 Oct 2006 12:38 GMT
>> Greetings,
>>   I recently found quite a lot of brand new tires (still have stickers)
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Tires do age.  Dry-rot, hardening and cracking of the rubber compound is
> the most common condition of aged tires.

Not in four years they won't.
hls - 15 Oct 2006 13:37 GMT
> Not in four years they won't.

Something else doesnt quite ring right about this post.

Seems to me that there is legislation about the manner of disposal of tires.
Would a company throw tires in a trash bin??
Nate Nagel - 15 Oct 2006 13:55 GMT
>>Not in four years they won't.
>
> Something else doesnt quite ring right about this post.
>
> Seems to me that there is legislation about the manner of disposal of tires.
> Would a company throw tires in a trash bin??

If it were a recall or similar, the person disposing of the tire would
be required to render it unusable, usually by drilling a hole in the
sidewall.

nate

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Stephen H - 15 Oct 2006 17:13 GMT
> If it were a recall or similar, the person disposing of the tire would be
> required to render it unusable, usually by drilling a hole in the
> sidewall.
>
> nate

Right- Also, many states have tire recycling laws, so ALL tires at my past
place of employment were sent to the tire disposal agency; never did we put
them in the trash.

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Dan_Thomas_nospam@yahoo.com - 15 Oct 2006 18:13 GMT
> Right- Also, many states have tire recycling laws, so ALL tires at my past
> place of employment were sent to the tire disposal agency; never did we put
> them in the trash.

   But there are a lot of places where tires will still end up in the
trash, places where enforcement is weak or nonexistent. Those tires
should still be good as long as they haven't been drilled or left out
in the sun or moving air; damage caused by UV and ozone are the big
killers of tires left outside.
   Some large stores can't be bothered to special off obsolete stock
and the factory sure doesn't want it back. There's a lot of good
merchandise going into dumpsters all over North America. See the
alt.dumpster newsgroup.

        Dan
Pete C. - 15 Oct 2006 20:56 GMT
> > Right- Also, many states have tire recycling laws, so ALL tires at my past
> > place of employment were sent to the tire disposal agency; never did we put
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>          Dan

Did anyone read the OP's post? He said "in the tire recycling bin", not
in the dumpster, garbage, etc.

Pete C.
hls - 16 Oct 2006 06:11 GMT
"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
> Did anyone read the OP's post? He said "in the tire recycling bin", not
> in the dumpster, garbage, etc.
>
> Pete C.

Good point, Pete. If these were in a 'tire recycling bin', then does that
mean they were still the valuable property of the company which owned them.
Are they now stolen goods?

No accusations intended, but something about this post just didnt sound
quite right.
Pete C. - 16 Oct 2006 14:44 GMT
> "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
> > Did anyone read the OP's post? He said "in the tire recycling bin", not
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> mean they were still the valuable property of the company which owned them.
> Are they now stolen goods?

Probably since they tend to have a second life as fuel for cement
plants, material for loading dock bumpers, surfacing for running tracks,
etc.

> No accusations intended, but something about this post just didnt sound
> quite right.

Indeed.

Pete C.
mandtprice@gmail.com - 25 Oct 2006 16:51 GMT
> "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
> > Did anyone read the OP's post? He said "in the tire recycling bin", not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> No accusations intended, but something about this post just didnt sound
> quite right.

That or the recycling company.  Contracts for those kinds of services
usually state that whatever goes into the bin immediately becomes
property of the recycling company.
Ted Mittelstaedt - 26 Oct 2006 12:11 GMT
> > "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
> > > Did anyone read the OP's post? He said "in the tire recycling bin", not
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> usually state that whatever goes into the bin immediately becomes
> property of the recycling company.

That is true but let me point out that all you need to do is call the
recycling company and ask if they sell old tires that have been
recycled, tell them you have an old car and you just need tires
with barely some tread on them for cheap.  If they tell you that they
do not, then I guarentee they will be more than happy if someone
takes the tires out of the recycling bin, even though they may not
give any official permission for doing it, because tires cost money to
dispose of even for a recycling company.

Ted
John S. - 16 Oct 2006 15:50 GMT
> Greetings,
>   I recently found quite a lot of brand new tires (still have stickers)
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> Chris

I would want to know why unused tires were in the recycling bin before
I took on the responsibility that would come from selling discarded
tires to someone else.

I suspect that if you know enough to be rummaging around in tire
recycling bins for tires to resell, then you know a whole lot more
about tires than is apparent in your message.  I suspect that anyone
who even knows about tire recycling bins is aware that tires don't have
expiration dates.

Are you shilling?
stewsclues@yahoo.com - 25 Oct 2006 08:07 GMT
Greetings,
 Original poster here to clear things up a bit.
 I am in the military and live in Germany. Recycling is manditory,
therefore, there are convinient recycling centers. Many people in the
military are very wasteful so I make regular trips to find nearly new
electronics someone plugged into 220V (replace the fuse and usually
things work OK again), items that are too heavy to take like my son's
entertainment center (very nice, but someone left it because we are
limited on how much weight we can ship), his couch (a $200 IKEA couch
someone used for a month until their regular items arrived from the
states), etc. You should get the idea.
 When I walked by the tire bin, it was obvious that many tires had the
stickers on them and were new. With 2 kids and sending my wife through
school, I decided it may mean a few extra bucks for Christmas. Not
poor, but not getting rich in the Army, either. I found 4 sets of 4
tires (do not need to be a tire expert to match brand, model, and
size). The car center on post is a military (civilian run) facility.
Most Military facilities are quite wasteful. Why they threw out several
sets and onsies and twosies of new tires in various brands and sizes, I
do not know.
 I do not think I stole them (though not sure what the Germans do with
used tires, but am positive we americans pay for them to take them). I
am not shilling (whatever that means). I am not an expert (it wasn't
hard to match tires).
 I appreciate the help so far. I just want to know if it is reasonable
to sell them for $100 a set to folks looking for a set of tires for
their car. Could save another soldier a few bucks, too. I bought a set
of Coopers a few months back for $270. Wish I had waited, for I sure
would have put a set of these on my car.
Chris
stewsclues@yahoo.com - 25 Oct 2006 08:43 GMT
>   I appreciate the help so far. I just want to know if it is reasonable
> to sell them for $100 a set to folks looking for a set of tires for
> their car. Could save another soldier a few bucks, too. I bought a set

What I mean, is is it reasonable regarding legally (if I sell them as
"used") and safety. When I asked if tires had an expiration date, I
meant is there a time limit for selling tires before they must be
disposed of. There are some wierd laws out there. I could see the
government saying tires may not be sold as new if they are X years old
(by manufacture date).
Again, thanks
Chris
Mike Romain - 25 Oct 2006 15:43 GMT
A used tire is a used tire and they go for about 25 bucks a pop from the
wrecker here in Canada.  Sometimes you get lucky and there is almost no
wear on them.

Sounds like your friends are about to get lucky.

I would inspect them carefully or have one mounted to see if the person
that 'recycled' them was a dickhead or not and slashed or stabbed them
so someone else can't use them.

Mike
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> >   I appreciate the help so far. I just want to know if it is reasonable
> > to sell them for $100 a set to folks looking for a set of tires for
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> Again, thanks
> Chris
 
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