Trying to put together an emer car kit.... water, food,
wiper blades, etc.
Need someway to jump start car.
Are cables still the best way or are these new jumper
batteries worth a look?
Ralf Ballis - 20 Oct 2006 20:54 GMT
> Trying to put together an emer car kit.... water, food,
> wiper blades, etc.
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> Are cables still the best way or are these new jumper
> batteries worth a look?
I would you recommend to put a jumper cable in your kit. This stored cable
doesn't need any maintenance or attention and it's all times ready for use.
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Ralf

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me@privacy.net - 20 Oct 2006 22:43 GMT
>> Are cables still the best way or are these new jumper
>> batteries worth a look?
>
>I would you recommend to put a jumper cable in your kit. This stored cable
>doesn't need any maintenance or attention and it's all times ready for use.
OK
Question tho...do they make any kind of GOOD but thin
and flexible jumper cables that one could keep in
travel bag if on business trip and need to keep for
rental car use?
AZ Nomad - 20 Oct 2006 23:09 GMT
>>> Are cables still the best way or are these new jumper
>>> batteries worth a look?
>>
>>I would you recommend to put a jumper cable in your kit. This stored cable
>>doesn't need any maintenance or attention and it's all times ready for use.
>OK
>Question tho...do they make any kind of GOOD but thin
>and flexible jumper cables that one could keep in
>travel bag if on business trip and need to keep for
>rental car use?
No. You *must* use very heavy wire and there's no getting around that.
I suppose if the cables were only 2' long then you might get by with
thinner wire, or you could accept having to sit there for an hour or two for
your battery to charge, but most people won't tolerate such compromise.
You can put it in a pretty bag, but you can't make it any smaller or
lighter.
Don't bother with the junk that connects through a cigarette lighter jack.
They're a waste of time. On a warm day with a nearly fully charged battery
you might be lucky if you increase the charge within two hours enough to
matter.
Scott Dorsey - 20 Oct 2006 23:23 GMT
>Question tho...do they make any kind of GOOD but thin
>and flexible jumper cables that one could keep in
>travel bag if on business trip and need to keep for
>rental car use?
Not really. The one thing that makes cables good is that they have low
resistance. Barring using silver wire or superconductors, they have to
be heavy to do so.
HOWEVER, the real question is why you would need jumper cables with a
rental car. I could see needing them to help out another driver on the
road (which incidentally will invalidate most rental car contracts), but
if you're running into rental cars with battery problems you might want to
consider a different rental company....
--scott

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TeGGeR® - 20 Oct 2006 23:28 GMT
>>Question tho...do they make any kind of GOOD but thin
>>and flexible jumper cables that one could keep in
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> contracts), but if you're running into rental cars with battery
> problems you might want to consider a different rental company....
Or you're renting from Rent-A-Wreck. Some of their vehicles, I swear...

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me@privacy.net - 21 Oct 2006 01:20 GMT
>Or you're renting from Rent-A-Wreck. Some of their vehicles, I swear...
yep.....that's the reason for the question
TeGGeR® - 21 Oct 2006 02:35 GMT
>>Or you're renting from Rent-A-Wreck. Some of their vehicles, I swear...
>
> yep.....that's the reason for the question
Then in that case I'd recommend a battery pack. Might be hard to find a
willing jump in Needles AZ at 4:00AM.
Oh, if you can, rent a manual tranny car, and make sure you park on a hill
(facing downhill, of course). Even the dimmest battery will often power up
an engine so long as it doesn't have to feed a starter motor,

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y_p_w - 10 Nov 2006 20:19 GMT
> >Question tho...do they make any kind of GOOD but thin
> >and flexible jumper cables that one could keep in
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> resistance. Barring using silver wire or superconductors, they have to
> be heavy to do so.
At room temperature, pure silver has about 105% the conductance
of pure copper. That's hardly enough to make difference. I'd be
interested in a superconductor that doesn't need some sort of
heavy cooling system. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conductivity
hls - 21 Oct 2006 10:52 GMT
>>> Are cables still the best way or are these new jumper
>>> batteries worth a look?
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> travel bag if on business trip and need to keep for
> rental car use?
I have a set of GOOD cables that fit in a round plastic flatpack. The
cables are not
thin, but they are very flexible because of the high quality (many strands
of fine wire)
cable used. They will fit in a very small space, and are easy to repack.
I dont remember where I bought them just now, but dont buy cheapo low
quality
battery cables.They will disappoint you.
AZ Nomad - 20 Oct 2006 21:13 GMT
>Trying to put together an emer car kit.... water, food,
>wiper blades, etc.
>Need someway to jump start car.
>Are cables still the best way or are these new jumper
>batteries worth a look?
Jumper batteries should only be considered if you frequently are totally
outside civilization. If there's any traffic, if you can make a cell phone
or pay phone call, walk to the next exit, etc., then you'll find a car to
get a jump.
Jumper batteries must be recharged periodically and take up a lot more
space than jumper cables. Most likely, they'll be dead any time you need
them or got left behind from a trip where you didn't have the room.
Stephen H - 22 Oct 2006 04:00 GMT
I choose both. I keep a jumper box charging at home and whenever a long trip
is planned it goes in. Often a good one will give you less hassles for a
quick jump. While at home it's priceless for jumping lawn tractors. I bought
my father one and father-in-law one.

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> Trying to put together an emer car kit.... water, food,
> wiper blades, etc.
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> Are cables still the best way or are these new jumper
> batteries worth a look?
me@privacy.net - 22 Oct 2006 17:00 GMT
>I choose both. I keep a jumper box charging at home and whenever a long trip
>is planned it goes in. Often a good one will give you less hassles for a
>quick jump. While at home it's priceless for jumping lawn tractors. I bought
>my father one and father-in-law one.
I also like the idea that the jumper boxes can be used
as portable power sources for laptops, etc.... and can
be charged up via the car cig lighter or plugging into
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