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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / October 2006

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Rear End Passenger Side Tire Tweeked.....

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willy4x4s@aol.com - 20 Oct 2006 21:53 GMT
My wife was involved in a rear end accident July 27th or there about.
The trunk, bumper, and rear panels over the rear wheels where also
affected. To say the least it was a pretty good rear end job. After
four weeks of rear tail light problems following my wife back to the
repair shop that warrantied there work, I noticed her rear tire was
bowed out (tweeked). I disputed this with a mercury inspector and the
shop owner and they were convinced that the tire was not tweeked as a
result of this accident because they could not see any knicks or
scratches on the control arms. Does anything need to rub up or hit the
control arms in order for them to become damaged? My thought that
impact alone and her car skidding from the impact could have done this.
Just my two cents anyone with this type of expertise would greatly be
appreciated. I meet with the adjusters supervisor on Wed. and I want to
come with a loaded gun 8).
N8N - 20 Oct 2006 22:06 GMT
> My wife was involved in a rear end accident July 27th or there about.
> The trunk, bumper, and rear panels over the rear wheels where also
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> appreciated. I meet with the adjusters supervisor on Wed. and I want to
> come with a loaded gun 8).

skidding shouldn't cause any damage to suspension parts, but a hit to
the wheel or tire definitely would.  If the bumper was pushed up enough
that it could have knocked into the tire this definitely could have
caused this, or if the car slid sideways into a curb that would have
done it as well.  Was the tire damaged in any way?  if so I think
you've got a good case to have it fixed.  Certainly the "frame" (in
quotes because I don't know what kind of vehicle this is) should have
been checked for straightness, and a bent structure could also cause
alignment issues.

nate
Steve - 21 Oct 2006 00:07 GMT
>>My wife was involved in a rear end accident July 27th or there about.
>>The trunk, bumper, and rear panels over the rear wheels where also
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> skidding shouldn't cause any damage to suspension parts, but a hit to
> the wheel or tire definitely would.  

Or skidding *into* a curb, pothole, etc. But it would have to be a
pretty hard wallop, and shoudld have left a pretty good mark on the tire.
Mike Romain - 21 Oct 2006 00:24 GMT
> >>My wife was involved in a rear end accident July 27th or there about.
> >>The trunk, bumper, and rear panels over the rear wheels where also
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Or skidding *into* a curb, pothole, etc. But it would have to be a
> pretty hard wallop, and shoudld have left a pretty good mark on the tire.

When I was young I was doing donuts on a deserted road in the snow and
while moving only one or two mph slid sideways into the curb.  The tire
on that side got 'tweaked' big time.  I had to replace the control arm.
There were no marks on the rim or tire.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
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Mike Romain - 20 Oct 2006 23:19 GMT
If the tire impacts something it sure can 'tweak' it and the hit sure
can 'tweak' the frame/unibody to make the tire look wrong.  Even just a
side slide into a curb can mess the wheel up.  

It should be put on a proper alignment tool to be checked.

If the body or frame is that tweaked, it is garbage in my mind.  They
can straighten some on a machine, but the 'memory' or temper has gone
out of the steel so the slightest bump can make it go bad again.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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> My wife was involved in a rear end accident July 27th or there about.
> The trunk, bumper, and rear panels over the rear wheels where also
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> appreciated. I meet with the adjusters supervisor on Wed. and I want to
> come with a loaded gun 8).
willy4x4s@aol.com - 20 Oct 2006 23:59 GMT
Its a 2004 Honda Accord 4 door.
> If the tire impacts something it sure can 'tweak' it and the hit sure
> can 'tweak' the frame/unibody to make the tire look wrong.  Even just a
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> > appreciated. I meet with the adjusters supervisor on Wed. and I want to
> > come with a loaded gun 8).
Mike Romain - 21 Oct 2006 00:24 GMT
You need a visit with the alignment machine to check it.  No other
evidence will likely convince the adjuster.

Mike

> Its a 2004 Honda Accord 4 door.
> > If the tire impacts something it sure can 'tweak' it and the hit sure
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> > > appreciated. I meet with the adjusters supervisor on Wed. and I want to
> > > come with a loaded gun 8).
maxwedge - 21 Oct 2006 00:28 GMT
As a body shop estimator I have seen the knuckle or strut bend with a
flush impact to the tire and not really leave any visible evidence,
they need to look this over and see what's what!

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