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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / October 2006

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Buck Turgidson - 24 Oct 2006 22:45 GMT
I started my 86 Toyota Corolla SR5 up to charge up the battery.  I forgot
about it, and left it idling in the driveway for a couple of hours.

Did I do any damage to it?  I have plenty of oil in it.  I am concerned
about oil pressure.

Thanks.
phaeton - 24 Oct 2006 23:10 GMT
> I started my 86 Toyota Corolla SR5 up to charge up the battery.  I forgot
> about it, and left it idling in the driveway for a couple of hours.
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>
> Thanks.

Probably not.

About the only damage you can do to a car by letting it idle for awhile
is if it is on a hot day.  It might overheat.  Otherwise, oil pressure
doesn't 'pump up' over time. Tt gets to its max 'pressure' within 30
seconds of starting the car, and stays there (or decreases slightly
once it warms to operating temp).

-phaeton
phaeton - 24 Oct 2006 23:12 GMT
> About the only damage you can do to a car by letting it idle for awhile
> Otherwise, oil pressure
> doesn't 'pump up' over time.

Er.... i meant "oil pressure doesn't 'pump up' or diminish over time"

doing too many things at once...

-phaeton
Al Bundy - 25 Oct 2006 14:43 GMT
> I started my 86 Toyota Corolla SR5 up to charge up the battery.  I forgot
> about it, and left it idling in the driveway for a couple of hours.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Thanks.
Normally, no damage would be done by idling like that. Many vehicles
are idled for long periods. However, running the vehicle to charge up a
badly discharged battery is not  such a good thing for your alternator.
A separate charger is the best way to handle that. And if you need a
battery, buy one. If you merely started it because it had been sitting
unused for a period of time, you have no problem.
bob zee - 25 Oct 2006 15:08 GMT
> Did I do any damage to it?  I have plenty of oil in it.  I am concerned
> about oil pressure.

No one mentioned the aspect of the cylinders and pistons only being
lubricated via 'splash oiling'.  This may or may not be an issue.  I
keep telling myself while I am sitting in my car anytime that requires
idling for any amount of time - "relax.  the top half of the piston
sees very little oil anyway.  don't rev it.  don't rev it."

I tap the accelerator anyway.  Just to spin the crank a tad faster just
to throw that little bit extra oil onto the bottoms of the pistons.  Am
I paranoid?  Yes, I think so.

Police cars do a lot of idling...

bob z.
ps:  yes, my car is very quiet and no one knows that i am slightly
rev'ing my engine in the drivethru
:~)>
51_racing - 25 Oct 2006 16:33 GMT
>>Did I do any damage to it?  I have plenty of oil in it.  I am concerned
>>about oil pressure.
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> rev'ing my engine in the drivethru
> :~)>

Unless you have a Briggs motor under your hood, you're getting more than
splash oiling going throughout the system.
Steve - 25 Oct 2006 16:41 GMT
>>> Did I do any damage to it?  I have plenty of oil in it.  I am concerned
>>> about oil pressure.
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>
> Unless you have a Briggs motor under your hood,

Or a Chevy straight six :-p

you're getting more than
> splash oiling going throughout the system.

True. There are small holes at the junction of the connecting rod cap
and the rod, which squirt oil on the underside of the piston crowns as
the crankshaft oil hole rotates past (on V-type engines). On inlines,
there may be a drilled hole in the conrod, or a dedicated oil squirter,
or just the leakage flung out of the sides of the conrod bearing under
pressure.
bob zee - 25 Oct 2006 16:52 GMT
> or just the leakage flung out of the sides of the conrod bearing under
> pressure.

That is the part I like.  The leakage being flung around.  I mean, it
works, right?  How many times does one piston go up and down during the
average lifespan?  How many straight line miles has the piston traveled
inside the cylinder.  Pretty awesome stuff if you think too much about
it.  If you are a paranoid, anal freak like me.

bob z.
bob zee - 25 Oct 2006 16:48 GMT
> Unless you have a Briggs motor under your hood, you're getting more than
> splash oiling going throughout the system.

-begin sarcasm -

Really?  I wondered what all of those gun-drilled passages were for...

-end sarcasm -

:~)>

bob z.
Scott Dorsey - 25 Oct 2006 18:24 GMT
>Unless you have a Briggs motor under your hood, you're getting more than
>splash oiling going throughout the system.

In terms of oil circulation, the Toyota 2TC is only a small step above
the Briggs lawnmower engine.  Incidentally, these things are notorious
for oil pump failures so always keep an eye on the gauge.
--scott
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