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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2006

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1993 Caravan, transmission not shifing sometimes

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J - 30 Oct 2006 16:56 GMT
Hi, here it is!! We have a caravan (3.3L) 3 spd auto no OD.we have been
pretty good about maintaining but we don't know what is wrong this
time. Sometimes it doesn't want to shift out of first gear. If you shut
the van off and restart it, it will shift normally. We replaced the
speed sensor a while back and haven't had luck. Any ideas?  

Thanks

-J
Comboverfish - 30 Oct 2006 19:35 GMT
> Hi, here it is!! We have a caravan (3.3L) 3 spd auto no OD.we have been
> pretty good about maintaining but we don't know what is wrong this
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>
> -J

I didn't know you could get a 3.3 with the 3 speed transaxle.  If I'm
wrong I genuinely want to know...

The 3 speed hydraulic shift trans would likely have a bad governor to
cause staying in 1rst gear.  It sounds from the fault description like
you have a 4 speed unit though.  Anyone have any input on Caravan
trans/engine options?

Toyota MDT in MO
Ted Mittelstaedt - 30 Oct 2006 19:36 GMT
> Hi, here it is!! We have a caravan (3.3L) 3 spd auto no OD.we have been
> pretty good about maintaining but we don't know what is wrong this
> time. Sometimes it doesn't want to shift out of first gear. If you shut
> the van off and restart it, it will shift normally. We replaced the
> speed sensor a while back and haven't had luck. Any ideas?

Are you sure this is a 3 speed transmission?  I didn't think that Crysler
ever coupled the 3.3L engine to the 3 speed.  I had thought it was
alsways coupled to the 4 speed computer-controlled transmission.

If yours is a 4 speed A604/41TE then you need to take it to Chrysler
and have them scan the transmission with a scan tool.  Your symptoms
are consistent with the trans computer of this trans putting it into limp
mode.  If the computer ever puts the trans into limp mode then it will
always store a code.

Ted
Comboverfish - 01 Nov 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Hi, here it is!! We have a caravan (3.3L) 3 spd auto no OD.we have been
> > pretty good about maintaining but we don't know what is wrong this
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>
> Ted

Hey Ted, I guess the OP isn't interested enough in his problem to
reply.  Makes you wonder why people post in the first place.  Oh
well...

Toyota MDT in MO
phaeton - 01 Nov 2006 20:52 GMT
> Hey Ted, I guess the OP isn't interested enough in his problem to
> reply.  Makes you wonder why people post in the first place.  Oh
> well...
>
> Toyota MDT in MO

Yeah really.  But then some folks post something unanswerable and start
complaining when they don't have any bites after a day or so.

Meanwhile, I'm going to go try to wash all those memories of trans
services on chrysler minivan transaxles out of my head.  Again.

-phaeton
J - 04 Nov 2006 01:48 GMT
I' m here, give a working guy a break. I haven't been on my computer
for days. I thought I'd get an email if somone replied to my posting.
Anyway.. I'm taking it to a mechanic to get that code read.I have an
ODB II reader, but it's a friggin OBDI. We were also told it cold be a
shift modulator. I'm hoping the transmisison left a code to pick up.
Thanks for everyone giving info.

> > Hey Ted, I guess the OP isn't interested enough in his problem to
> > reply.  Makes you wonder why people post in the first place.  Oh
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>
> -phaeton
phaeton - 04 Nov 2006 06:08 GMT
> I' m here, give a working guy a break. I haven't been on my computer
> for days.

Sorry bout that then.

Good luck with the transmission.

-phaeton
Noozer - 04 Nov 2006 06:16 GMT
> I' m here, give a working guy a break. I haven't been on my computer
> for days. I thought I'd get an email if somone replied to my posting.
> Anyway.. I'm taking it to a mechanic to get that code read.I have an
> ODB II reader, but it's a friggin OBDI.

Then you should be able to get the CHECK ENGINE light to blink out codes
with a jumper wire, or by turning the ignition key to run a few times. Not
sure the exact procedure for a Caravan.
J - 04 Nov 2006 17:41 GMT
If I can do KOEO on this van then I'll put off the mechanic. Is it
worth buying a OBDI reader?

-J

> > I' m here, give a working guy a break. I haven't been on my computer
> > for days. I thought I'd get an email if somone replied to my posting.
> > Anyway.. I'm taking it to a mechanic to get that code read.I have an
> > ODB II reader, but it's a friggin OBDI.Then you should be able to get the CHECK ENGINE light to blink out codes
> with a jumper wire, or by turning the ignition key to run a few times. Not
> sure the exact procedure for a Caravan.
J - 05 Nov 2006 03:30 GMT
I just read that KOEO won't work, but I found a post with someone else
encountering the same stuff that I have been encountering and some
stuff I haven't. Looks like I have some parts to replace, namely
another speed sensor, and a neutral safety switch. Thanks so much
everyone.

J

> If I can do KOEO on this van then I'll put off the mechanic. Is it
> worth buying a OBDI reader?
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> > with a jumper wire, or by turning the ignition key to run a few times. Not
> > sure the exact procedure for a Caravan.
MT-2500 - 05 Nov 2006 05:43 GMT
J Wrote:
> I just read that KOEO won't work, but I found a post with someone else
> encountering the same stuff that I have been encountering and some
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> times. Not
> > > sure the exact procedure for a Caravan.

Talk to the people that answered your post in stead of telling yourself
how to throw parts at it.:grinno: :lol:

Proper testing and proper info is needed before they can help you.
Like
Tips on getting a good answer to your questions.
People trying to answer your question do not have a crystal ball.
So give them all of the info you have like year make and model and
engine and transmission and mileage.
Also cars engine and transmission service history or any recent repairs
or problems.
Also a description of your problem and what it is doing or not doing.
If you have codes give up the code no.
And remember a code does not say replace the part but only points to
the problem that you have to check out.
So to better help you give up all of the info you have on it.
MT

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brian - 06 Nov 2006 14:28 GMT
I had the same problem with a 1993 sunbird,3.1 auto, I took it in and
had a trnny service done this summer and its been fine since, Hope it
helps, its the only thought I had.
> Hi, here it is!! We have a caravan (3.3L) 3 spd auto no OD.we have been
> pretty good about maintaining but we don't know what is wrong this
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>
> -J
 
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