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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2006

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Cleaning An Engine

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phaeton - 06 Nov 2006 19:45 GMT
What's the recommended procedure for cleaning a computer controlled
engine?  In my case it will be a 1.9L Escort W/ EFI.  I just picked up
the car, and it's definately got some oil leaks.  I'd like to clean it
up so I can find where it is leaking from.  Would it be considered safe
if I-

1) Drive down to the local coin-op DIY car wash on a rainy day (won't
be busy).

2) Prop the hood until the engine is only warm to the touch (~30
minutes)

3) Using saran-wrap/zipties/tape, cover the Alternator, Distributor,
PCV valve/inlet, air inlet (if exposed), and any dipstick tubes.  Fwiw,
it is only the sides of the block and the transmission bellhousing that
are dirty, and that is where I'll concentrate on- no blasting water
around the engine compartment all willy-nilly.

4) Spray down the grimy block and transmission case with Simple Green
and let sit for 10-15 minutes.

5) use the "Engine Cleaner" selection in the car wash, but ONLY in the
low-pressure mode (IOW, use the gentle stream, and don't pull the
trigger)

6) Use the Rinse selection in the car wash, but (once again) do NOT use
the pressure.

7) Immediately uncover everything I covered and start the engine,
allowing it to come up to operating temp.

This is pretty much what I did on all my older (non-computer
controlled) cars with great success and no troubles.   Any help or
suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks

-phaeton
Lawrence Glickman - 06 Nov 2006 20:57 GMT
>What's the recommended procedure for cleaning a computer controlled
>engine?  In my case it will be a 1.9L Escort W/ EFI.  I just picked up
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>
>-phaeton

I had one of my engines STEAM CLEANED by a Hotsy Totsy machine from
the back of a pick up truck.  It melted the slime off like there was
no tomorrow, and I was left with a like-new engine, not a speck of
anything on it in the way of grime, grease, or dirt.  STEAM.

I don't know if they still are in business.  It only cost me $20 and
they did the job on the spot in a parking lot.

Lg
Comboverfish - 06 Nov 2006 21:18 GMT
> What's the recommended procedure for cleaning a computer controlled
> engine?  In my case it will be a 1.9L Escort W/ EFI.  I just picked up
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> controlled) cars with great success and no troubles.   Any help or
> suggestions are appreciated.

You should be safe if you leave the engine running, and avoid directly
blasting the distributor (depending on year), exaust manifold, belts,
or alternator.  If you make a mistake and get a secondary ignition
component wet with it running, there will be a telltale temporary
misfire condition.  If you do that with the engine off, you may be
waiting a long time for the vehicle to restart -or- you will be
removing the cap/wires etc to dry them.  Soak the really bad spots with
a spray engine degreaser first and wait 5 minutes before power rinsing.

Toyota MDT in MO
phaeton - 06 Nov 2006 22:12 GMT
> You should be safe if you leave the engine running, and avoid directly
> blasting the distributor (depending on year), exaust manifold, belts,
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>
> Toyota MDT in MO

By *blast*, I assume you DON'T mean pulling the trigger on the wand and
hitting it with high pressure.  I'm not so sure that I can avoid
overspraying the exhaust manifold even with it in 'gentle stream' mode.
I'd hate to crack the manifold.

Thanks

-phaeton
Steve - 06 Nov 2006 22:42 GMT
>>You should be safe if you leave the engine running, and avoid directly
>>blasting the distributor (depending on year), exaust manifold, belts,
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>
> -phaeton

Personally, I would NOT do this with the engine running. Thermal
shocking the manifold is one good reason. The risk of ingesting water in
the intake plumbing is another. Be REAL careful of some modern cars'
intake plumbing. They have low spots where ingested water can pool at
idle, then the first time you open the throttle to drive away, they suck
down a big slug, hydro-lock, and bend a connecting rod. No, I have NOT
"been there, done that" but I have an acquaintance who has.

Also, don't fear the high-pressure spray. Use it, but ALWAYS hold the
wand 10-12 inches back when using it. The fine spray from a
high-pressure wand loses speed very fast- right at the tip of the wand
it can cut wood (and in this case, potentially blow a gasket out of a
seam and put water inside an engine), but 10" away you can blast your
hand with it and it just feels like sticking your hand out the window
driving 60 in a rain shower. That is about perfect for rinsing down an
engine.
Comboverfish - 06 Nov 2006 23:33 GMT
> > You should be safe if you leave the engine running, and avoid directly
> > blasting the distributor (depending on year), exaust manifold, belts,
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> overspraying the exhaust manifold even with it in 'gentle stream' mode.
>  I'd hate to crack the manifold.

Actually I do, but as always it all boils down to common sense.  A
spritz here and there of tiny water droplets isn't going to hurt your
exaust manifold.  Anyway the manifold is quite a bit cooler at idle
than during normal driving conditions, and *much* less susceptible to
thermal shock than you would think.  This is the way I have done it for
over a decade without incident.  Common sense I guess is the key;
practice it and you'll be alright whichever method you choose.

Toyota MDT in MO
 
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