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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / December 2006

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how to change coolant of engine

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Taurus - 17 Dec 2006 00:36 GMT
If I must drain all the old coolant first? If I just add coolant, so
what may happen?

Thanks.
« Paul » - 17 Dec 2006 01:16 GMT
> If I must drain all the old coolant first? If I just add coolant, so
> what may happen?
>
> Thanks.

Well, if your coolant is now full it will be difficult to get more in.
If your coolant is over 2 years old it is shot.
marks542004@yahoo.com - 17 Dec 2006 03:52 GMT
> If I must drain all the old coolant first? If I just add coolant, so
> what may happen?
>
> Thanks.

If you are changing coolent to bring your antifreeze up to date , you
need to drain as much as possible and refill with the correct amount of
antifreeze and water.

This is a job I prefer to let a garage handle . Its usually not that
expensive and there are issues of disposing of old antifreeze.
Hal - 17 Dec 2006 16:29 GMT
> If I must drain all the old coolant first? If I just add coolant, so
> what may happen?
>
> Thanks.

How are you going to add more antifreeze to an engine that is already
full? The idea is to drain as much out as you can, even use a garden
hose to flush out the block, and then refill with a fresh mix of 50/50
water and antifreeze. If you do this every couple years you'll probably
dodge the annoying overheating/clogged heater cores/blown head
gaskets/clogged radiator problems that the less informed have to
contend with.

Chris
hls - 17 Dec 2006 17:30 GMT
>> If I must drain all the old coolant first? If I just add coolant, so
>> what may happen?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Chris

I  normally disconnect the lower radiator hose, and then flush..That gets
almost all the old stuff out,
and you can start afresh.

IMHO it is wise to replace the hoses and the thermostat every few years,
which makes the whole job a bit
easier.
Huw - 17 Dec 2006 19:35 GMT
>>> If I must drain all the old coolant first? If I just add coolant, so
>>> what may happen?
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> which makes the whole job a bit
> easier.

You really must have some poorly engineered and cheaply built cars if you
need to change the coolant every couple of years and the thermostat every
few. Four or five years on standard coolant and some eight years for OAT
coolant is considered more than adequate. Thermostat, if it ever fails,
which it probably won't.
Taurus should find out which kind of coolant he needs to refill his system.
OAT and ordinary ethylene glycol is not compatible. Even a small amount of
coolant left in the system will react badly if the wrong type is used to
refill.
Also, it is possible that if the new coolant is refilled too quickly or if
certain bleed points in the circuit are not attended to, there may be
hot-spots, the heater might not work or the coolant level could suddenly
fall with no warning. Read the drivers manual or consult someone who knows
what is needed for your particular model of car.

Huw
hls - 18 Dec 2006 03:17 GMT
>> I  normally disconnect the lower radiator hose, and then flush..That gets
>> almost all the old stuff out,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> need to change the coolant every couple of years and the thermostat every
> few.

Yeah, we do.. We have a couple of Buicks...OAT technology is not all it was
cracked up to be.
I said every few years, not every couple of years.
Hal - 19 Dec 2006 16:24 GMT
> You really must have some poorly engineered and cheaply built cars if you
> need to change the coolant every couple of years and the thermostat every
> few. Four or five years on standard coolant and some eight years for OAT
> coolant is considered more than adequate. Thermostat, if it ever fails,
> which it probably won't.

I don't replace theromostats unless they are no longer performing their
job. I have over 100k on the original one in my kia and it still warms
up to one line below the middle and never deviates from that position.
However, I still say that changing the coolant every couple years is a
good idea. Sure you can go longer, but then you wind up dealing with
the problems I described. Corroded water pump rotors, failed water pump
seals, plugged heater cores, plugged radiators, mysterious overheating
issues, etc. Been there, done that. Got the greasy T-shirt to prove it.

As always, your mileage may vary....

Chris
larry moe 'n curly - 18 Dec 2006 04:20 GMT
> The idea is to drain as much out as you can, even use a garden
> hose to flush out the block, and then refill with a fresh mix of 50/50
> water and antifreeze.

I've had bad luck adding a 50/50 mix because a lot of water wouldn't
drain out of the system, so now I add the proper amount of 100%
antifreeze and then top it off with water.
 
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