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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / December 2006

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switch back/forth from Synthetic to Conventional

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paleface23@gmail.com - 19 Dec 2006 20:25 GMT
I've got a 2002 Grand Am (3.4L V6) with almost 99,000 miles on it.

I recently switched over to synthetic oil (Valvoline Max Life
Synthetic) b/c i had a coupon from vioc and figured i'd try it out.
Now, i've gotten it a couple of times, but i haven't noticed any
increase in mpg.  Actually, i've noticed i've lost about 1-2 mpg on
average over what i was getting.  What would explain that?  Seems to
have been getting better lately though.

Anyway, I'm thinking I don't require synthetics in my car, b/c it
doesn't haul anything and I live in Missouri which doesn't get
temperatures that are TOO extreme.

Is it harmful to my engine to switch back to the Conventional Max Life?
Knifeblade_03 - 20 Dec 2006 12:56 GMT
Shouldn't harm anything.

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Scott Dorsey - 20 Dec 2006 15:48 GMT
>Shouldn't harm anything.

There were some compatibility issues with earlier synthetic oils, but
all of that was solved a long time ago.
--scott

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Ad absurdum per aspera - 20 Dec 2006 19:22 GMT
>  Actually, i've noticed i've lost about 1-2 mpg on
> average over what i was getting.  What would explain that?  Seems to
> have been getting better lately though.

A couple of thoughts:

1.  A lot of variables can affect gas mileage -- including seasonal
changes in both driving style and the formulation of gasoline.  It's a
hard experiment to control properly.

2.  Not all synthetic oils are rated as energy saving -- and some
dinosaur oils are!  Although synthetics are often perceived as being
more slippery, that isn't the only issue.  It has more to do with
viscosity and formulation than with feedstock origins.  It is also
supposed to be interpreted as a fleet average rather than as a
guaranteed result in any particular car.  Finally, it is only one or
two percent at most -- one of those factors that are a big deal
societally but not necessarily apparent, let alone important, to the
individual consumer.

> Anyway, I'm thinking I don't require synthetics in my car, b/c it
> doesn't haul anything and I live in Missouri which doesn't get
> temperatures that are TOO extreme.

I think you've appraised the situation correctly  Synthetics are
better, especially in hard service -- but you can get a good long
engine lifetime out of a conventional oil if you change it, w/quality
filter, on an appropriate schedule.    

Best of luck,
--Joe
 
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