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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / January 2007'97 Cavalier Oil filter
How the heck do you get to it? I've changed the oil twice, and the only way I can get to the filter is by shoving my left arm down the right side of the firewall. It's a tight fit, and the filter will barely go through it. My arm is a very tight fit and got a couple of fair sized bruises on it today. This is nuts. It's really frustrating trying to screw it back on by feel. I'm also not sure I'm not knocking trash and dirt onto the gasket surface. There's no way I can get a wrench on it, and I feel like I'm only getting a third of a turn on it because I can only grip it with the fingertips of my weaker left hand. I consider myself very fortunate that I could turn it off without a wrench because there no way in heck I could ever get one to it. Any hints short of pulling the transmission? thx I pull the front right wheel on my 96 cavalier. > How the heck do you get to it? I've changed the oil twice, and the > only way I can get to the filter is by shoving my left arm down the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > thx I pulled it to try to get it back on but couldn't find the mounting surface. I'm not satisifed that it's tight and plan to pull the wheel tonight to see if I can get a wrench on it. Thanks for the reply. > I pull the front right wheel on my 96 cavalier. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > thx > I pulled it to try to get it back on but couldn't find the mounting > surface. I'm not satisifed that it's tight and plan to pull the wheel > tonight to see if I can get a wrench on it. Thanks for the reply. It sounds like you have the 2.2L OHV engine. Reach up behind the block from under the car (to the right of the exhaust) , and you'll have enough room to maneuver. That's an inconvenient place for the filter, because it's placed directly over the pipe. Oil gets all over it, and you have to wipe it up. That model has a real lack of space between the engine and firewall. I've received many bruises and scrapes from working back there. > > I pull the front right wheel on my 96 cavalier. Woody probably has the 2.4L, which is placed conveniently on the front of the motor, down nice and low. I do have the 2.2. I've rolled around under the car and tried every angle I can find to get my hands on the filter and can't do it. Is your's an automatic or standard? As I said, I can do it from above, but I can't get a wrench on it and can't get more than a third of a turn on it from that angle. The old one had been oozing oil but not leaking badly. I pulled the front wheel tonight and found the filter with a flash light. It's way back there, but I could reach it, but there wasn't room to turn it with a wrench. I have a nice-quality strap wrench that fits it, and the handle is held on with a small screw and nut. I took the handle off leaving a small one-inch long nub, and I was able to use it to get another quarter turn on it. I'm satisfied. Many thanks for the feedback. It's been most helpful. > It sounds like you have the 2.2L OHV engine. Reach up behind the block > from under the car (to the right of the exhaust) , and you'll have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That model has a real lack of space between the engine and firewall. > I've received many bruises and scrapes from working back there. >I do have the 2.2. I've rolled around under the car and tried every > angle I can find to get my hands on the filter and can't do it. Is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > leaving a small one-inch long nub, and I was able to use it to get > another quarter turn on it. I'm satisfied. There are socket wrench driven oil filter removers out there... Sounds like a good investment if you change your oil often. > >I do have the 2.2. I've rolled around under the car and tried every > > angle I can find to get my hands on the filter and can't do it. Is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > There are socket wrench driven oil filter removers out there... Sounds like > a good investment if you change your oil often. I've got a few of these 3/8" drive filter wrenches, but I'm using Amsoil filters with a round top. At any rate, I'm not sure there's room in there to swing any kind of handle other than the little 1-inch nub I wound up with. At any rate, it works. > There are socket wrench driven oil filter removers out there... Sounds like > a good investment if you change your oil often. Im still looking for one good enough to deal with the filter on our 3800 Buick Gen II engine. (Doesnt seem to make much difference which filter brand I use, either) Im sure they exist, but the ones the local parts houses stock will not engage the filter end tightly enough to remove it. (even when the filter is not overtightened). Luckily, this filter is not very hard to access and I can use a jaw type wrench, sometimes aided by a screwdriver driven through the filter body. But I WOULD like to find an appropriate wrench for this type filter. > Im still looking for one good enough to deal with the filter on our 3800 > Buick Gen II engine. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > an appropriate wrench > for this type filter. NAPA has one that looks interesting. Click http://tinyurl.com/ufglz to see the one I'm talking about. I didn't like the 3/8 drive cap-type removers. The metal ones tended to wedge themselves onto the filter and were difficult to get back off. The plastic ones just slip. There used to be a filter with a hex nut welded to the top; I don't remember who made it or if it's still available. I never used one, but it looked handy for locations were it was difficult to get a standard strap around it. I actually seldom use a wrench on my Tundra or Montera Sport. I hand tighten them 3/4 of a turn and can take them back off by hand. I just can't get a grip on the Cavalier filter because of its location. >>Im still looking for one good enough to deal with the filter on our 3800 >>Buick Gen II engine. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > tighten them 3/4 of a turn and can take them back off by hand. I just > can't get a grip on the Cavalier filter because of its location. The "filter with hex nut" was standard on some VW models. nate  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel "Frank" <frank062547@excite.com> wrote in message > NAPA has one that looks interesting. Click http://tinyurl.com/ufglz to > see the one I'm talking about. > > I didn't like the 3/8 drive cap-type removers. The metal ones tended > to wedge themselves onto the filter and were difficult to get back off. > The plastic ones just slip. For me the metal ones slip too, for this particular filter series. I suspect it is just the cheap construction of most of these filter wrenches, and I would be willing to pay more to get a good tool. I think we will get rid of that Buick soon, and then I will retool for whatever we buy next (most likely a rice-rocket) > > I didn't like the 3/8 drive cap-type removers. The metal ones tended > > to wedge themselves onto the filter and were difficult to get back off. > > The plastic ones just slip. Actually, I picked one up at Autozone yesterday that worked just fine on the Bosch filter I bought. It would not remove the Pennzoil filter that was on the car however. Now all I have to do is stick with Bosch filters or find another of similar craftsmanship. Dont know if Bosch suffers the same reputation as Fram. |
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