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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / December 2006

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Adapt a Radiator to a garden hose

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bigfluffydog@gmail.com - 28 Dec 2006 18:09 GMT
Hi,

I'm trying to adapt a radiator to a garden hose. See below for
explanation.
Are there common adaptors ?
Also, how much heat can a radiator withstand ?

So here's the explanation. i need hot water to treat and re-treat a
backyard ice rink. if I can fit a radiator with an adaptor to a garden
hose, I can throw the whole contraption onto a fire and voila, have
nice hot water to resurface the ice.

That is, after i build a hand held Zamboni.... <jk>
Scott Dorsey - 28 Dec 2006 18:33 GMT
>I'm trying to adapt a radiator to a garden hose. See below for
>explanation.
>Are there common adaptors ?

No, but you can make some.

>Also, how much heat can a radiator withstand ?

Depends.  Old copper ones can handle whatever the solder on them can
deal with.  Modern plastic-bodied ones can handle whatever the plastic
used can deal with.

Most soldered radiators used 10/90 solder, which is good up to 514'F,
but some usd as low as 25/75, which will soften at 362'F.  Your goal is
to keep enough water going through the system to keep it from getting
over that point.

Plastic ones I don't know numbers on.

>So here's the explanation. i need hot water to treat and re-treat a
>backyard ice rink. if I can fit a radiator with an adaptor to a garden
>hose, I can throw the whole contraption onto a fire and voila, have
>nice hot water to resurface the ice.

Why not just connect the hose to the drain line on your house's hot water
heater?

>That is, after i build a hand held Zamboni.... <jk>

I would think a lawn roller could be adapted with a sharp blade in front
without too much machine shop work.
--scott
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Steve W. - 28 Dec 2006 21:35 GMT
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to adapt a radiator to a garden hose. See below for
> explanation.
> Are there common adaptors ?
> Also, how much heat can a radiator withstand ?

About 400 degrees MAX.

> So here's the explanation. i need hot water to treat and re-treat a
> backyard ice rink. if I can fit a radiator with an adaptor to a garden
> hose, I can throw the whole contraption onto a fire and voila, have
> nice hot water to resurface the ice.

Toss it on the fire and watch it MELT into a puddle. The solder on an
older unit will melt real fast and the newer aluminum ones will just
plain melt.

> That is, after i build a hand held Zamboni.... <jk>

You could make a barrel water heater though. Use a barrel stove kit to
make a stove, then make a flat coil out of the copper and form it around
the outside top of the barrel.

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Phillip McCracken - 29 Dec 2006 03:28 GMT
nothing plastic, i would think the older solder based ones would last longer
but as for how long?  I would try to jerry rig up a hot water tank and a
propane bottle, feeding the propane into the hot water tank.   Pretty crazy,
i might end up reading about you in the news.
> Hi,
>
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>
> That is, after i build a hand held Zamboni.... <jk>
* - 29 Dec 2006 10:13 GMT
bigfluffydog@gmail.com wrote in article
<1167329371.842533.166250@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>...
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to adapt a radiator to a garden hose. See below for
> explanation.
> Are there common adaptors ?
> Also, how much heat can a radiator withstand ?

Are you talking automotive or household radiator?

There are garden hose adapters to common pipe threads available at most
hardware stores, and there are garden hose adapters to radiator caps
available through professional - NAPA, Carquest - NOT Manny, Moe 'n' Jack -
auto parts stores.

I have purchased each type on different occasions for different projects.

How do you intend to keep the hose leading into the fire from melting?

> So here's the explanation. i need hot water to treat and re-treat a
> backyard ice rink. if I can fit a radiator with an adaptor to a garden
> hose, I can throw the whole contraption onto a fire and voila, have
> nice hot water to resurface the ice.
>
> That is, after i build a hand held Zamboni.... <jk>

You MAY build a hand-held ice resurfacing machine (I seriously doubt if you
will build a WORKING model), but Zamboni is a family and company name, not
a generic name for ice resurfacing equipment. There are other companies
such as Tennant that also build ice resurfacing equipment.

Do you plan to build a Tennant?

Why not build a Richard Zamboni?....or will you clone the late Frank
Zamboni?

I used to work on Zamboni ice-resurfacing machines as a factory-authorized
parts and service agent.

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