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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / January 2007

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O2 Bank1 Sensor '01 Toyota Avalon (false positive?)

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NewsGroups - 20 Jan 2007 21:25 GMT
I just had my '01 Toyota Avalon in the shop to replace the timing belts &
engine belt, Monday.
Today being Saturday afternoon I started the car to go out and the check
engine light came on. I dropped by the service dept and had it checked.  The
service dept. said I need an O2 sensor Bank1 Sensor 1 '01 Toyota Avalon -
P01135 - I .

Thursday, I filled half way with gas and added a large bottle of Techron. Do
you think that may have caused a false positive - such a strong ratio of
Techron to half tank of gas? Should I have the code cleared and see what
happens?

Thanks for all the help.

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aarcuda69062 - 20 Jan 2007 22:05 GMT
> I just had my '01 Toyota Avalon in the shop to replace the timing belts &
> engine belt, Monday.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Thanks for all the help.

There is no such code as a P01135.  Was it perhaps a P1135 or a
P0135 or a P0113?

Assuming that the O in your P01135 is a typo, and that the real
code is P1135, that is an air fuel sensor heater code and is not
likely to be caused by your over dousing the fuel with Techron.
Don - 21 Jan 2007 01:27 GMT
>> I just had my '01 Toyota Avalon in the shop to replace the timing belts &
>> engine belt, Monday.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>code is P1135, that is an air fuel sensor heater code and is not
>likely to be caused by your over dousing the fuel with Techron.

I have yet to see an O2 heater code be a false positive for a failed
O2.  "Lean indication," "out of range," etc. are frequently NOT  going
to be fixed with a new sensor but need the dirty MAF cleaned or a
vaccum leak fixed.

We probably replace 1-2 O2 sensors/week for burnt out heaters.  At
this time when we see a heater code we just replace the O2 sensor --
hasn't bitten us yet.

Don
www.donsautomotive.com
Scott Dorsey - 20 Jan 2007 22:08 GMT
>I just had my '01 Toyota Avalon in the shop to replace the timing belts &
>engine belt, Monday.
>Today being Saturday afternoon I started the car to go out and the check
>engine light came on. I dropped by the service dept and had it checked.  The
>service dept. said I need an O2 sensor Bank1 Sensor 1 '01 Toyota Avalon -
>P01135 - I .

No, they shouldn't have said that.  That code means the oxygen sensor is
out of range.  Now that COULD be caused by a bad sensor, but more likely
an engine that is misfiring.

>Thursday, I filled half way with gas and added a large bottle of Techron. Do
>you think that may have caused a false positive - such a strong ratio of
>Techron to half tank of gas? Should I have the code cleared and see what
>happens?

Probably not, but it could be.  More likely there is some other issue causing
your exhaust to be way off.  I'd reset it first and see what happens but I
would also pull data off all the other engine sensors and see what is going
on inside.
--scott

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Comboverfish - 21 Jan 2007 01:24 GMT
> >I just had my '01 Toyota Avalon in the shop to replace the timing belts &
> >engine belt, Monday.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> out of range.  Now that COULD be caused by a bad sensor, but more likely
> an engine that is misfiring.

Nope, P1135 (improperly typed code # corrected) is set when the B1S1
A/F sensor *heater* fails it's monitor test.  RE: "P01135 - I" -- I'm
willing to bet that the poster wrote down exactly what was written on
the invoice.   It wouldn't be the first time that a service writer
passed on incorect info to the customer.

> >Thursday, I filled half way with gas and added a large bottle of Techron. Do
> >you think that may have caused a false positive - such a strong ratio of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> would also pull data off all the other engine sensors and see what is going
> on inside.

Definitely not.  I wouldn't worry about it (other than the sensor cost)
because heater failure on the B1S1 of more recent Toyota transverse V6s
is a really common problem, which is supposedly fixed with the latest
OE part(s) revisions.

Toyota MDT in MO
 
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