> I've posted a similar question in alt.autos.subaru, but I'm looking
> for other experiences or tips.
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> vehicle with chains only on the front might be more likely to
> spin out if the rear tires lose traction.
AWD you need chains on ALL four tires. Unless you want to get stuck.
Install the chains as tight as you can, drive ahead a car length or so
and then tighten them some more. Now install the bungee style tension
bands. Instead of buying the spider type they show you can buy a few of
the normal bungee cords and use them by interlocking them to form an X

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y_p_w - 28 Jan 2007 17:00 GMT
>> I've posted a similar question in alt.autos.subaru, but I'm looking
>> for other experiences or tips.
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> bands. Instead of buying the spider type they show you can buy a few of
> the normal bungee cords and use them by interlocking them to form an X
Thanks. I looked around and only found the round chain
tighteners with five hooks each. The hooks looked like
they could damage my rims. I couldn't find the spider
(spoked) adjuster, but I didn't go to any stores that
stock the brand of chains I got. At this time of year,
I can still find chains here in the San Francisco Bay
Area.
I looked for bungee cords at Wal-Mart. The large assorted
sized jars had too many sizes I didn't need. The ideal
size would be 14-16" because the side cable is maybe 20"
diameter. They had 18" bungees sold in 2-packs. I bought
them anyways, but then realized I could shorten them by
tying a knot. I think two on each chain might work, but
three would seem to be ideal.
y_p_w - 07 Feb 2007 00:44 GMT
> > I've posted a similar question in alt.autos.subaru, but I'm looking
> > for other experiences or tips.
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> bands. Instead of buying the spider type they show you can buy a few of
> the normal bungee cords and use them by interlocking them to form an X
I finally saw some Z-style cable traction devices. A local outdoors
equipment shop has a display that includes the Security Chain Super
Z6. I played around with it, and it does seem to be really easy to
use.
It uses a very flat pin connector (I don't know what the technical
term
is) that mates in a keyhole latch. This seems to be far more secure
than the typical bushing with keyhole hook that I see on most other
cable-style chains. There seems to be a lot less that could flap
around, and they claim it can fit in less than half the space required
for "Type S" clearance. There's one connector on the inside and two
on the outside. The "hoop" cables are plastic coated. They also
don't use regular steel rollers for the biting surface, but multiple
"traction coils" that are wound around the cable. When all three
connectors are hooked, there's a lot of slack, which then gets
taken out with a rubber tensioner. Overall - it looks like a well
thought out design.
It's rather pricey though. I don't know about plunking down $60-70.
Still - they look so easy to install that I wouldn't need to worry
about paying a chain installer $25 (and I'd still have to take off
the chains myself.