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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2007

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RichD - 05 Feb 2007 02:47 GMT
www.nationalvapor.com

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/03/MTGDKNTC831.DTL&hw=h
ydrogen&sn=001&sc=1000

HLS@nospam.nix - 05 Feb 2007 13:48 GMT
> www.nationalvapor.com

wow
Donald Lewis - 05 Feb 2007 20:41 GMT
>> www.nationalvapor.com
>
>wow

Yeah...wow   A perpetual motion machine!

Don
www.donsautomotive.com
cuhulin@webtv.net - 05 Feb 2007 22:13 GMT
I once read about a guy in Colorado who built a little model ''perpetual
motion'' car that runs on hydrogen in a science class.Put water in the
tank and it turns into hydrogen and supposely will run forever.It is a
little kit car and you can buy one at places that sell science products.
cuhulin
HLS@nospam.nix - 06 Feb 2007 12:01 GMT
> I once read about a guy in Colorado who built a little model ''perpetual
> motion'' car that runs on hydrogen in a science class.Put water in the
> tank and it turns into hydrogen and supposely will run forever.It is a
> little kit car and you can buy one at places that sell science products.
> cuhulin

There is no problem with running a car on hydrogen.  But you can never
get more energy out of something than it has in it, crudely put.

Perpetual motion in this sense is impossible.

This hydrogen generator is no different.
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 13 Feb 2007 04:38 GMT
> >> www.nationalvapor.com
> >
> >wow
>
> Yeah...wow   A perpetual motion machine!

If only we could capture the energy dissipated by all these posts
involving bogus claims.


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Dan Bloomquist - 13 Feb 2007 05:42 GMT
> If only we could capture the energy dissipated by all these posts
> involving bogus claims.

And, they are a limitless resource!!!!!!
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu - 13 Feb 2007 06:30 GMT
>> If only we could capture the energy dissipated by all these posts
>> involving bogus claims.
>
>And, they are a limitless resource!!!!!!

Aye, so they're.  A quote from Einstein comes to mind here.

Mati Meron                      | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu         |  chances are he is doing just the same"
cuhulin@webtv.net - 13 Feb 2007 15:10 GMT
Considering all of the politicians in the World,,, we would never run
out of fuel.
cuhulin
TomO - 06 Feb 2007 15:44 GMT
<snip>

$800 for an electrolyzer!!! And the ammeter is $30 extra!!!
That's hardly for nothing!
Jonathan Jones - 06 Feb 2007 17:21 GMT
<snip>

"Hydrogen for nothing, and your chicks for free..."

-sconzey

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John S. - 09 Feb 2007 12:28 GMT
> www.nationalvapor.com
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/03/MTGDKNTC8...

Remember no energy is being magically created here.  It is being
transformed from one state to another and that transformation process
takes energy.  A couple of two line anecdotes indicating minor
increases in mpg does not constitute proof of anything in my opinion.

However if you want to fork over hundreds of dollars for yet another
miracle milage improver feel free to do so.
 
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