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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2007

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Seat belt question

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Ivan Vegvary - 09 Feb 2007 07:18 GMT
I drive 4 different vehicles.  Driver's seat belt is fine in all four.  BUT,
in three of the vehicles the front passenger is 'locked' from reaching
forward.  In other words, if he/she needs any slack to reach, say, the
radio, they have to undo their seatbelt, reach, and then re-harness.  There
is plenty of belt material (slack) but it continually gets shorter and
tighter as the ride continues.
Naturally, on my driver's side I can pull as much slack as I need while the
belt is still attached.

QUESTION
Do I have faulty belts, OR, do they purposefully have mechanisms that behave
differently from on side versus the other side.

BTW, if my driver's belt didn't have available slack, I too could not reach
some of the controls.

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary
Tegger - 09 Feb 2007 12:54 GMT
> I drive 4 different vehicles.  Driver's seat belt is fine in all four.
>  BUT, in three of the vehicles the front passenger is 'locked' from
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> BTW, if my driver's belt didn't have available slack, I too could not
> reach some of the controls.

Make? Model? Year? What kinda car?

Psychic Wednesday isn't until next week.

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spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com - 09 Feb 2007 13:35 GMT
> I drive 4 different vehicles.  Driver's seat belt is fine in all four.  BUT,
> in three of the vehicles the front passenger is 'locked' from reaching
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>
> Ivan Vegvary

There are pretty much 3 types of seatbelt (well, 4 if you count the
old manually-adjustable ones)

1) you pull it out, when you stop pulling, it locks and you have to
retract it fully if you want to make it longer

2) you pull it out slow, it runs out free. You pull fast, it locks,
but then unlocks when you retract it a little.

3) pull slow, fast, no difference, but when the setbelt mech. senses a
sudden motion of the vehicle, it locks. My ranger has this style and
it will lock over stutter-bumps.

You need to find out which style you're supposed to have- try playing
around with the passenger side belt.

Dave
Ivan Jager - 09 Feb 2007 23:16 GMT
>> I drive 4 different vehicles.  Driver's seat belt is fine in all four.  BUT,
>> in three of the vehicles the front passenger is 'locked' from reaching
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> sudden motion of the vehicle, it locks. My ranger has this style and
> it will lock over stutter-bumps.

4) Behaves like 2) normally, or like 1) after you pull it out all the way,
then goes back to 2) if you let it retract fully.

Is your passenger wearing fluffy winter clothes or, um, extra large around
the waist?

AFAICT, 4) is intended so that it is comfortable for people but still
usable for baby seats.

Ivan
cuhulin@webtv.net - 10 Feb 2007 05:25 GMT
Wankel engine seat belts? Now I have heard of every thing.
cuhulin
z - 09 Feb 2007 23:01 GMT
> I drive 4 different vehicles.  Driver's seat belt is fine in all four.  BUT,
> in three of the vehicles the front passenger is 'locked' from reaching
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Ivan Vegvary

Nowadays, they mostly give you belts that let you move a little, as
long as it isn't too fast. The fact that you say the drivers belts in
all the cars let you do so suggests that in the other cars, the
mechanisms are locking. They get pretty gummed up, living in the
interior. My gripe is with the ones that go the other way, and refuse
to take up the slack. Seems sort of dangerous.

Best slack taker up is the one in the New Beetle (don't know if they
still have this, it was in them when they were New); the belt was
attached to a tiny Wankel engine that had a couple of blank cartridges
sort of plumbed in where the spark plugs would go; when the impact
sensor decided you had smashed into something, it fired the cartridges
and the thing reeled the belt back in and pinned you into the seat. Is
that cool or what?
Steve W. - 10 Feb 2007 16:40 GMT
>> I drive 4 different vehicles.  Driver's seat belt is fine in all four.  BUT,
>> in three of the vehicles the front passenger is 'locked' from reaching
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>>
>> Ivan Vegvary

Normal. Those passenger belts are designed for use with Child Safety
seats. Put the seat in and when you strap it in you push it firmly into
the seat and the belt will ratchet in and lock the seat in tight. Some
of that style belt can be changed to an inertia lock belt(like the
drivers side) by pulling the belt ALL the way out of the retractor.
Until it stops. Give a solid tug and then allow it to retract all the
way. That locks the ratchet out and allows the inertia lock to function.

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Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Ivan Vegvary - 13 Feb 2007 06:19 GMT
>>> I drive 4 different vehicles.  Driver's seat belt is fine in all four.
>>> BUT,
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> stops. Give a solid tug and then allow it to retract all the way. That
> locks the ratchet out and allows the inertia lock to function.

Thank you!  The above makes the most sense.  I tried your method and it
works.

Ivan Vegvary
 
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