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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2007

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mnslim@gmail.com - 12 Feb 2007 18:59 GMT
I have no compression in the # 3 cylinder how do I know or find out if
the piston rings are bad or it's a bad valve?.

Steve
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Stan Weiss - 12 Feb 2007 19:11 GMT
> I have no compression in the # 3 cylinder how do I know or find out if
> the piston rings are bad or it's a bad valve?.
>
>  Steve
>  mnslim@gmail.com

Try a leak down test.
Mike Romain - 12 Feb 2007 19:26 GMT
> I have no compression in the # 3 cylinder how do I know or find out if
> the piston rings are bad or it's a bad valve?.
>
>  Steve
>  mnslim@gmail.com

You put a tablespoon of oil in the plug hole and try again.  If it comes
up, suspect rings.

Mike
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N8N - 12 Feb 2007 19:53 GMT
> mns...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have no compression in the # 3 cylinder how do I know or find out if
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> You put a tablespoon of oil in the plug hole and try again.  If it comes
> up, suspect rings.

If it *doesn't* come up that doesn't necessarily mean valves however.
there's a third possibility which is that there is a leak in either
the head gasket or the head or block.  Hooking up shop air to the plug
hole with the engine rotated so the valves are closed will tell you a
lot.

good luck

nate
Steve - 12 Feb 2007 20:13 GMT
> I have no compression in the # 3 cylinder how do I know or find out if
> the piston rings are bad or it's a bad valve?.
>
>  Steve
>  mnslim@gmail.com

NO compression?  That's unlikely to be rings. More likely a burned
valve, dropped valve, holed piston, blown head gasket, etc.
Daryl Bryant - 12 Feb 2007 23:27 GMT
> I have no compression in the # 3 cylinder how do I know or find out if
> the piston rings are bad or it's a bad valve?.

You could perform a wet/dry compression test cept you have NO compression,
indicating that you have a bigger issue - 1st Drain the oil, and inspect to
see it there is aluminum or pieces of metal.

You hadn't mentioned what year/make/model/engine size...you might try
removing a valve cover or you could drop the oil pan - some vehicles have
magnets attached to the bottom of their oil pan... <<  I don't know the
vehicle so I can't tell for sure!

Your best bet is to remove the affected head - gonna have to do it
anyways!!!
Ray - 13 Feb 2007 17:24 GMT
> I have no compression in the # 3 cylinder how do I know or find out if
> the piston rings are bad or it's a bad valve?.
>
>  Steve
>  mnslim@gmail.com

What precipitated this test?  What work was done?
How was the car running before?

I ask because we once set the valve lash way off on my race car and had
zero compression...

Like Mike said, some oil in there will help seal the rings... but if you
have ZERO compression, you probably have a valve stuck open or some
other serious damage...

What kind of engine?
Ray
 
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