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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2007

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305 chev engine starting problem

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robert - 13 Feb 2007 05:24 GMT
I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.

The engine started draging after shutting it down and starting it back up?

I replace the batt. & 2 starters because the engine drags after warming up.

I had it in the shop and they made a heat shield for the starter but nothing
helps?

Once it at normal operating temp. and I turn it off it drags so much you
wouldn't think it would crank but it does?

Elec windows drag too!

Now I thinking it taiming problem but what would temp have to do with
timing?

I know it's something simple but it's got me!

Thanks
Mike Romain - 13 Feb 2007 15:10 GMT
You could easily be describing a bad connection in one of the main power
cables.  The sneaky one is the battery to engine block connection and
the engine to body one.

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> I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.
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> Thanks
gsxr711@hotmail.com - 13 Feb 2007 20:09 GMT
> I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.
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> Thanks

It sounds like your timing is too far advanced. I don't know why
temperature matters but I know it does. Try retarding the timing a
little bit. Good luck
sdlomi2 - 14 Feb 2007 03:52 GMT
>> I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.
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> temperature matters but I know it does. Try retarding the timing a
> little bit. Good luck

   Hey, right on gxsr!  He asked what temp had to do with timing--shoulda
asked if both temp AND timing could make engine harder to start: yes!
Advanced timing makes engine fire too early and "kick back" on piston's
movement = hard to start, or "starter drag".  Heat swells pistons--remember
that piston "slap", a noise due to excessive piston-to-cylinder walls
clearance?  It is quieter when hot and  is due to piston's expanding &
reducing this clearance after it heats.  This same swelling could cause
"starter drag".  HTH, s
Bob - 14 Feb 2007 05:00 GMT
>>> I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.
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> Advanced timing makes engine fire too early and "kick back" on piston's
> movement = hard to start, or "starter drag".

That's right, the easy way to check this is to disable the ignition system
and see iff it still cranks hard.

> Heat swells pistons--remember that piston "slap", a noise due to excessive
> piston-to-cylinder walls clearance?  It is quieter when hot and  is due to
> piston's expanding & reducing this clearance after it heats.  This same
> swelling could cause "starter drag".  HTH, s

An engine with too tight of a piston to cylinder clearance will have far
worse problems than slow cranking when hot.
 
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