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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2007

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Ceramic Brake Pads OK on a Toyota Sienna?

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Vinny - 14 Feb 2007 03:21 GMT
It's time to change the brake pads on my 2000 Toyota Sienna.
I was thinking about  going to ceramic pads but I hear they
may not be compatible with braking systems not designed for them.
Any truth in that? I would think if the pads are available they
should work. Should I just stick with OEM pads?
Since it'll be a DIY job, the extra cost for the ceramic
pads is not an issue.

Vin
C. E. White - 15 Feb 2007 13:05 GMT
> It's time to change the brake pads on my 2000 Toyota Sienna.
> I was thinking about  going to ceramic pads but I hear they
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> Since it'll be a DIY job, the extra cost for the ceramic
> pads is not an issue.

Lots of people love ceramic pads. It is my opinion that they are much
harder on the rotors and don't stop better than the OE pads. I always
prefer the OE pads (purchased from the dealer's parts department). If
the OE pads have lasted you 7 years, why do you want to change to
something of unknown quality?

Ed
Vinny - 19 Feb 2007 03:07 GMT
> Lots of people love ceramic pads. It is my opinion that they are much
> harder on the rotors and don't stop better than the OE pads. I always
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> Ed

This will be the 2nd set of pads I'll be putting in. The first time I
replaced
them I put standard pads in, from Raybestos I think.
They lasted about 30K miles.
I'm thinking of ceramics since I tow a small boat with the van and the
boat trailer has no brakes. I figured I'd use the best pads I could this
time. But I did hear that they are tougher on the rotors but not as bad as
semi-metalics.
Noozer - 19 Feb 2007 05:36 GMT
> This will be the 2nd set of pads I'll be putting in. The first time I
> replaced
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> time. But I did hear that they are tougher on the rotors but not as bad as
> semi-metalics.

Ceramics aren't "better", just harder.

It takes more pressure and heat to get the maximum braking force out of
ceramics. For your average car, going from semi-metallic to ceramic isn't
the best move.

Do your current brakes do the job? Would you regret having to push the pedal
harder to get the same stopping power that you currently have?
Calvin - 15 Feb 2007 17:07 GMT
> It's time to change the brake pads on my 2000 Toyota Sienna.
> I was thinking about  going to ceramic pads but I hear they
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>
> Vin

One small thing to consider is that the ceramics generally produce
less dust than the standard ones.  Some cars I have owned made a big
mess with brake dust and I had to clean the wheels often, others not
so much.  Just something to think about.
John S. - 15 Feb 2007 19:47 GMT
> It's time to change the brake pads on my 2000 Toyota Sienna.
> I was thinking about  going to ceramic pads but I hear they
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> Vin

Assumiong it is of the correct size I'm not aware of a compatibility
issue.  Over the years I have tried harder pads to reduce dust and
extendd the miles bettween changes.   The replacement pads I've tried
stopped just fine and reduced the dust.  But brake noise increased and
rotors seemed to wear faster so I've switched back to pads from the
manufacturer.
 
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