HLS@nospam.nix wrote in article
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> How does this scam work, "*"
In one example, a clever scammer can glean enough historical info from a
Carfax to create a counterfeit title.
HLS@nospam.nix - 29 Mar 2007 00:17 GMT
> HLS@nospam.nix wrote in article
> <ZBcNh.794$rO7.328@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>...
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> In one example, a clever scammer can glean enough historical info from a
> Carfax to create a counterfeit title.
I always knew I wasn't devious enough to be a successful crook.
>> Noozer <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in article
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> How does this scam work, "*"
Seems obvious to me from what he said. Guy steals a car, asks in the ng
for a CarFax lookup. You look it up, database hit generates a police
inquiry, police come to *your* door asking what you know about the
stolen vehicle; you can't trace the anonymous name being used by the
OP through a botnet machine, so you got a lot of 'splainin' to do, Lucy.

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M.M. - 25 Mar 2007 20:39 GMT
> Seems obvious to me from what he said. Guy steals a car, asks in the ng
> for a CarFax lookup. You look it up, database hit generates a police
> inquiry, police come to *your* door asking what you know about the
> stolen vehicle; you can't trace the anonymous name being used by the
> OP through a botnet machine, so you got a lot of 'splainin' to do, Lucy.
But why would the crook want a Carfax report?
He'd probably use the car in a crime then abandon it or sell it to a
fence or take it to Mexico or chop it for parts. Why would he or the
fence want a Carfax?
I suppose it's conceivable but doesn't seem too plausible...
zwsdotcom@gmail.com - 25 Mar 2007 21:17 GMT
> Seems obvious to me from what he said. Guy steals a car, asks in the ng
> for a CarFax lookup. You look it up, database hit generates a police
> inquiry, police come to *your* door asking what you know about the
No, I don't believe it. Suppose a stolen car is offered for sale on
the side of the road near me. I go look it up on Carfax [I wonder if
Carfax shows stolen cars as such?]. I see something I don't like, and
decide not to buy it. Am I going to be arrested? Simply looking up the
VIN of a car that has some shady history is not evidence of any kind
of criminal intent on the part of the person doing the lookup.
It _is_ possible, I guess, that a criminal might want to use Carfax to
see if a vehicle is currently reported stolen before he offers it for
sale, and I can see why he wouldn't want that transaction being traced
back to him.
HLS@nospam.nix - 26 Mar 2007 00:59 GMT
> Seems obvious to me from what he said. Guy steals a car, asks in the ng
> for a CarFax lookup. You look it up, database hit generates a police
> inquiry, police come to *your* door asking what you know about the
> stolen vehicle; you can't trace the anonymous name being used by the
> OP through a botnet machine, so you got a lot of 'splainin' to do, Lucy.
There is no payoff to a thief going this route... Thieves work on something
that pays off.