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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2007

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Carfax Please: 1FMZU67E73UA39645

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Livin - 23 Mar 2007 02:06 GMT
2003 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
VIN : 1FMZU67E73UA39645

thank you!
Noozer - 23 Mar 2007 06:21 GMT
Deary deary...

2003 Ford Explorer that has been given a "restored" registration.

> 2003 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
> VIN : 1FMZU67E73UA39645
>
> thank you!
* - 24 Mar 2007 13:21 GMT
Noozer <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in article
<ytJMh.52659$DN.4024@pd7urf2no>...
> Deary deary...
>
> 2003 Ford Explorer that has been given a "restored" registration.

Don't be surprised if the authorities contact you and ask you why you are
doing a Carfax on a stolen vehicle.

Asking for a Carfax is a common scam among car thieves.

When YOU do the Carfax, it cannot be traced to THEM!!!!
Livin - 24 Mar 2007 17:05 GMT
> Noozer <dont.s...@me.here> wrote in article
> <ytJMh.52659$DN.4024@pd7urf2no>...
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>
> When YOU do the Carfax, it cannot be traced to THEM!!!!

How do you know it is stolen?
What does "restored" mean... does that mean it has a Salvage title?

There is a local guy that wants to trade me this Sport Trac for my
truck so I wanted to check it out first. I really appreciate the help!
HLS@nospam.nix - 24 Mar 2007 17:46 GMT
> Noozer <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in article
> <ytJMh.52659$DN.4024@pd7urf2no>...
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>
> When YOU do the Carfax, it cannot be traced to THEM!!!!

How does this scam work, "*"
* - 25 Mar 2007 13:44 GMT
HLS@nospam.nix wrote in article
<ZBcNh.794$rO7.328@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>...

> How does this scam work, "*"

In one example, a clever scammer can glean enough historical info from a
Carfax to create a counterfeit title.
HLS@nospam.nix - 29 Mar 2007 00:17 GMT
> HLS@nospam.nix wrote in article
> <ZBcNh.794$rO7.328@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>...
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> In one example, a clever scammer can glean enough historical info from a
> Carfax to create a counterfeit title.

I always knew I wasn't devious enough to be a successful crook.
clifto - 25 Mar 2007 20:05 GMT
>> Noozer <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in article
>> <ytJMh.52659$DN.4024@pd7urf2no>...
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> How does this scam work, "*"

Seems obvious to me from what he said. Guy steals a car, asks in the ng
for a CarFax lookup. You look it up, database hit generates a police
inquiry, police come to *your* door asking what you know about the
stolen vehicle; you can't trace the anonymous name being used by the
OP through a botnet machine, so you got a lot of 'splainin' to do, Lucy.

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M.M. - 25 Mar 2007 20:39 GMT
> Seems obvious to me from what he said. Guy steals a car, asks in the ng
> for a CarFax lookup. You look it up, database hit generates a police
> inquiry, police come to *your* door asking what you know about the
> stolen vehicle; you can't trace the anonymous name being used by the
> OP through a botnet machine, so you got a lot of 'splainin' to do, Lucy.

But why would the crook want a Carfax report?

He'd probably use the car in a crime then abandon it or sell it to a
fence or take it to Mexico or chop it for parts. Why would he or the
fence want a Carfax?

I suppose it's conceivable but doesn't seem too plausible...
zwsdotcom@gmail.com - 25 Mar 2007 21:17 GMT
> Seems obvious to me from what he said. Guy steals a car, asks in the ng
> for a CarFax lookup. You look it up, database hit generates a police
> inquiry, police come to *your* door asking what you know about the

No, I don't believe it. Suppose a stolen car is offered for sale on
the side of the road near me. I go look it up on Carfax [I wonder if
Carfax shows stolen cars as such?]. I see something I don't like, and
decide not to buy it. Am I going to be arrested? Simply looking up the
VIN of a car that has some shady history is not evidence of any kind
of criminal intent on the part of the person doing the lookup.

It _is_ possible, I guess, that a criminal might want to use Carfax to
see if a vehicle is currently reported stolen before he offers it for
sale, and I can see why he wouldn't want that transaction being traced
back to him.
HLS@nospam.nix - 26 Mar 2007 00:59 GMT
> Seems obvious to me from what he said. Guy steals a car, asks in the ng
> for a CarFax lookup. You look it up, database hit generates a police
> inquiry, police come to *your* door asking what you know about the
> stolen vehicle; you can't trace the anonymous name being used by the
> OP through a botnet machine, so you got a lot of 'splainin' to do, Lucy.

There is no payoff to a thief going this route... Thieves work on something
that pays off.
Livin - 25 Mar 2007 16:42 GMT
> Noozer <dont.s...@me.here> wrote in article
> <ytJMh.52659$DN.4024@pd7urf2no>...
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>
> When YOU do the Carfax, it cannot be traced to THEM!!!!

How do you know it is stolen? Is there a site to look it up? I do not
want to buy a stolen vehicle.

Please let me know, thank you.
Livin - 26 Mar 2007 18:38 GMT
Noozer,
How did you find out about the "restored" title? The guy that owns it
paid for a full CarFax and it does not show that. Can you email me the
info you got? Seriously, I'm concerned about this purchase and if this
guy is a scammer I want some proof... plus I will likely report it to
the authorities.

thanks

LivinOne
..at..
gmail.com

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