FFT fuel additive, just more snake oil?

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HiC - 11 Apr 2007 19:58 GMT

A friend gave me a bottle of this stuff swearing it makes a noticeable
improvement in gas mileage. It's called FFT Gasoline Blend Combustion
Catalyst.

My default position on all these "Miracle In A Bottle" products is
that they fall within a range from useless to potentially harmful to
your car.

This site includes a link to a PDF file citing a study by the
University Of Southern Maine reportedly showing test results on this
product, though the product name in the .pdf is Diesel/Gas Go.

http://www.jonesco.com/saving.html

Supposedly they found a measureable improvement. I haven't followed
up to verify that the University can confirm they published this data
as stated.

Here's the patent listing for it

http://tinyurl.com/22tlux

The website for the manufacturer doesn't greatly inspire my confidence

http://www.futurefueltechnologies.com/

with claims like:

"Does your car run like it needs a $90 tune up? Run just 2 tanks full
of FFT, and you won't need the tune up. FFT brings performance back."

I guess it reconditions plugs/wires and distributor rotors too?

Anyone have experience with or knowledge of this product?

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dlzc - 11 Apr 2007 21:34 GMT

> A friend gave me a bottle of this stuff swearing it makes
> a noticeable improvement in gas mileage. It's called FFT
> Gasoline Blend Combustion Catalyst.

...

> Anyone have experience with or knowledge of this product?

http://www.fleet-central.com/bf/t_print.cfm?action=article_pick&storyID=930
... mixed results.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/additive/web-addt.htm
... it is registered with the EPA

How much does it cost compared to a gallon of gasoline?

I had a Nissan the required a full carburetor rebuild every time I
tried one of these "tune ups in a can". Perhaps you will have
different results.

David A. Smith

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HiC - 12 Apr 2007 02:23 GMT

> How much does it cost compared to a gallon of gasoline?

One pint is $25 which treats 160 gals. You use it 1 oz/10 gals. I
think it can be had cheaper in bulk.

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John S. - 11 Apr 2007 21:42 GMT

> A friend gave me a bottle of this stuff swearing it makes a noticeable
> improvement in gas mileage. It's called FFT Gasoline Blend Combustion
> Catalyst.

Stuff like this appears every time there is a runup in gasoline
prices.

Proven ways to improve milage on a car include maintaining tire
pressure at a higher recommended level; changing driving habits to
minimize frequent changes in speed; combining trips where possible;
keeping the car in good tune.

> My default position on all these "Miracle In A Bottle" products is
> that they fall within a range from useless to potentially harmful to
> your car.

I agree.

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HLS@nospam.nix - 11 Apr 2007 23:51 GMT

> A friend gave me a bottle of this stuff swearing it makes a noticeable
> improvement in gas mileage. It's called FFT Gasoline Blend Combustion
> Catalyst.

You really need to see the official tests from the university or testing lab
in order to make a decision.

The combustion catalysts I have seen gave some decent emissions improvement
on diesel engines. Cant remember now if they gave any improved fuel
economy
or not. Clearly, they never became front page news.

Looks like snake oil, smells like snake oil, but read an official report
from a
reputable testing facility before making a firm decision.

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ethos4life@gmail.com - 12 Apr 2007 01:40 GMT

> A friend gave me a bottle of this stuff swearing it makes a noticeable
> improvement in gas mileage. It's called FFT Gasoline Blend Combustion
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Anyone have experience with or knowledge of this product?

Not with that I haven't but you should try Ethos FR. It is non-toxic
and non-hazardous and works not only in your gas but also in the oil
in your crank case. If you want more info, email me at
ethos4life@gmail.com

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Uncle Al - 12 Apr 2007 15:35 GMT

> > A friend gave me a bottle of this stuff swearing it makes a noticeable
> > improvement in gas mileage. It's called FFT Gasoline Blend Combustion
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> and non-hazardous and works not only in your gas but also in the oil
> in your crank case.

[snip]

Gas tank *and* crankcase? Then it is crap.

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clifto - 12 Apr 2007 22:30 GMT

> Gas tank *and* crankcase? Then it is crap.

So you don't like Marvel Mystery Oil either, then.

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HLS@nospam.nix - 12 Apr 2007 22:54 GMT

> > Gas tank *and* crankcase? Then it is crap.
>
> So you don't like Marvel Mystery Oil either, then.

I have used it as a motor oil additive to clean up varnished engines and
sticking
lifters. Like it or not, it has always worked (in the cases mentioned
previously) for
me. I put it in, run it a couple of hours, and then drain and change.

I do not, and would not, use it as a regular treatment.

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clifto - 12 Apr 2007 23:48 GMT

> "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote...
>> > Gas tank *and* crankcase? Then it is crap.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> I do not, and would not, use it as a regular treatment.

I think it makes a dandy top oil when added to the gasoline. I'll run it
in the crankcase for a few days myself, but like you I don't use it as
a full-time crankcase additive.

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Marvin - 12 Apr 2007 18:35 GMT

> A friend gave me a bottle of this stuff swearing it makes a noticeable
> improvement in gas mileage. It's called FFT Gasoline Blend Combustion
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> University Of Southern Maine reportedly showing test results on this
> product, though the product name in the .pdf is Diesel/Gas Go.

I have nothing to say about this additive, but I will
comment on the report. It is a bad job. It says too little
about how the tests were done to convince anyone that they
were done well. And expressing the average mileages to a
hundredth of a mile per gallon is ludicrous. The e-mail
address of the author of the report is wmoore@usm.maine.edu.
I've cced this message to him, for his comment.

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