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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2007

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TomO - 27 Apr 2007 20:52 GMT
I have a need to get an old 1951 GMC 2.5 ton side-dump farm truck
running for a few errands. This truck has been parked out behind the
barn for about two years now.

My question is about a part in the brake hydraulics system. When I
started the project, there was no brake pressure. A several minute
search brought me to the master cylinder that is located under the
driver's position floorboard. Pulled a plug from the floor and found
where the reservior is (it is actually the body of the master cylinder
itself).

Following the hydraulic line from the master cylinder brings me to the
part in question. This is a large cylindrical device about six inches in
diameter with a narrower neck coming off the front of it. The neck feeds
into a rubber tube that ends at a breather of some sort mounted on the
firewall. There is a bleeder for the brake system in the narrow neck as
well, and the brake lines come off of there too.

There is also a feed from this device to the hydraulic pump for the dump
bed on this truck, but I don't believe that the system shares the fluid
between the brakes and the dump hydraulics.

I got the brakes working well, but I'm still baffled by the purpose of
this rather large device in the middle of the system.

Any ideas?

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TomO - 27 Apr 2007 21:08 GMT
> I have a need to get an old 1951 GMC 2.5 ton side-dump farm truck
> running for a few errands. This truck has been parked out behind the
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>
> Any ideas?

OK, bad form replying to my own post. I know.

Thinking about it, could it a system that is set up to apply pressure to
the brakes while the dump bed is in the up or tilted position? Was there
such a thing on these old farm trucks?

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cuhulin@webtv.net - 28 Apr 2007 23:14 GMT
Sounds like it is a brake booster to me.Look them up on the net.
cuhulin
TomO - 29 Apr 2007 12:33 GMT
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:14:08 -0500, cuhulin wrote:

> Sounds like it is a brake booster to me.Look them up on the net.
> cuhulin

No vacuum lines to it though. My Google searches have been fruitless so
far. Have you got any search terms that may find this part?

I've tried 1951 GMC farm truck brake systems and a few other variants. No
luck for me yet.

I think it is not a booster, but who knows? I've been wrong before.
Steve - 04 May 2007 22:59 GMT
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:14:08 -0500, cuhulin wrote:
>
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>
> I think it is not a booster, but who knows? I've been wrong before.

Could just be an air vent and filter for both the hydraulic and brake
systems, placed high enough that water from off-road work doesn't get
into the system.
Ashton Crusher - 29 Apr 2007 20:33 GMT
>> I have a need to get an old 1951 GMC 2.5 ton side-dump farm truck
>> running for a few errands. This truck has been parked out behind the
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>the brakes while the dump bed is in the up or tilted position? Was there
>such a thing on these old farm trucks?

From what you describe taht sounds like a good guess. However, with
rear dumps they often want to be able to crawl them along as the dump
the dirt out so not sure why they would insist that the brakes be
applied unless the truck is just to unstable to move when dumping.
Dan_Thomas_nospam@yahoo.com - 30 Apr 2007 03:16 GMT
> >> I have a need to get an old 1951 GMC 2.5 ton side-dump farm truck
> >> running for a few errands. This truck has been parked out behind the
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

    Sounds to me like an early version of Bendix's Hydroboost, which
became popular when diesels showed up in smaller vehicles. Diesels
have no useable manifold vacuum, so the hydroboost used power-steering
pump pressure to boost the brake pressure.
        The Hydrovac used manifold vacuum to boost the brakes.

      Dan
MasterBlaster - 30 Apr 2007 09:41 GMT
TomO wrote:

> Following the hydraulic line from the master cylinder brings me to the
> part in question. This is a large cylindrical device about six inches in
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Any ideas?

Wanna bet someone here will know?
http://www.stovebolt.com/
cuhulin@webtv.net - 30 Apr 2007 17:50 GMT
I like that stovebolt.com website,MasterBlaster.Thanks for posting it.
cuhulin
 
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