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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2007

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Can Alternator Failure Damage Battery?

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Parisisehs - 07 May 2007 21:27 GMT
Friends, my 1998 Mercury Mystique died over the weekend. Dealer tells
me it needs an Alternator which I expected. However they told me it
ruined my Battery (1 month old Die Hard Gold). Is this possible and if
so , how does it happen? Car stoped in driveway. Radio went off
Headlights dimmed and then car was dead. Thanks.
gilla - 07 May 2007 21:37 GMT
it could have been undercharging the battery

> Friends, my 1998 Mercury Mystique died over the weekend. Dealer tells
> me it needs an Alternator which I expected. However they told me it
> ruined my Battery (1 month old Die Hard Gold). Is this possible and if
> so , how does it happen? Car stoped in driveway. Radio went off
> Headlights dimmed and then car was dead. Thanks.
Nate Nagel - 07 May 2007 22:27 GMT
> Friends, my 1998 Mercury Mystique died over the weekend. Dealer tells
> me it needs an Alternator which I expected. However they told me it
> ruined my Battery (1 month old Die Hard Gold). Is this possible and if
> so , how does it happen? Car stoped in driveway. Radio went off
> Headlights dimmed and then car was dead. Thanks.

If it drained the battery down to the point where the car stopped
running, it may or may not have damaged the battery.  Well, scratch that
- it did damage the battery.  question is, how much?  Only way to know
is to charge it back up (with a battery charger, not the alternator) and
then see if it holds enough charge to reliably start the car.

If this car is one of those "has to start every time, every day" deals,
I'd replace the battery.  It's cheaper than not making an important
meeting because you rolled the dice and lost.

good luck,

nate

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Scott Dorsey - 07 May 2007 22:42 GMT
>> Friends, my 1998 Mercury Mystique died over the weekend. Dealer tells
>> me it needs an Alternator which I expected. However they told me it
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>is to charge it back up (with a battery charger, not the alternator) and
>then see if it holds enough charge to reliably start the car.

Note that the Die Hard Gold has some extenisve warranty on it where they
will refund you the value of the lifetime left in the battery.  If you have
only had it for a month, and you have damaged it, you should be able to
get almost a complete warranty.
--scott
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Parisisehs - 07 May 2007 23:58 GMT
Thanks for the replys folks. they are replacing the battery . Based on
your comments I am asking for the old one to take back to sears.
Thanks.
HLS@nospam.nix - 08 May 2007 00:50 GMT
> Friends, my 1998 Mercury Mystique died over the weekend. Dealer tells
> me it needs an Alternator which I expected. However they told me it
> ruined my Battery (1 month old Die Hard Gold). Is this possible and if
> so , how does it happen? Car stoped in driveway. Radio went off
> Headlights dimmed and then car was dead. Thanks.

Hard to say, without more information...
The battery might have suffered an open cell,or a short circuit, which
could have had no relationship to the alternator.

The alternator may have been damaged or may have suffered a failure
which lead to the downfall of the battery.

The only thing you can do is have the battery replaced under warranty,
and deal with the alternator problem.  If the dealer tries to hump you,
go to a good starter/alternator shop for repairs, or get a first class
rebuild or new alternator from a quality supply store.

Dealers are not always experts, nor are they always reasonable in
prices.    Choose carefully.
Ashton Crusher - 08 May 2007 02:39 GMT
>Friends, my 1998 Mercury Mystique died over the weekend. Dealer tells
>me it needs an Alternator which I expected. However they told me it
>ruined my Battery (1 month old Die Hard Gold). Is this possible and if
>so , how does it happen? Car stoped in driveway. Radio went off
>Headlights dimmed and then car was dead. Thanks.

And how does the dealer know that it wasn't a bad battery that ruined
the alternator?  I've heard that story before too.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 08 May 2007 14:43 GMT
> Friends, my 1998 Mercury Mystique died over the weekend. Dealer tells
> me it needs an Alternator which I expected. However they told me it
> ruined my Battery (1 month old Die Hard Gold). Is this possible and if
> so , how does it happen? Car stoped in driveway. Radio went off
> Headlights dimmed and then car was dead. Thanks.

Overcharging is what damages batteries.  A failure mode of an
alternator that results in overcharging is rare.  However, some
voltage regulators reside inside alternators.  Thus a failure of the
regulator could be viewed as an alternator failure with those style
alternator/regulators.  Did the dealer say what exactly failed on the
alternator?
 
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