'99 Cavalier, 2.2L. On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK. When it won't start, the temp
gauge is stuck on cold. As soon as this starts working, the engine
starts. So, maybe a bad ECT.
But, after starting, the temp guage will intermittently fail again; and,
when it does, the oil, battery, and coolant alarm lights all come on.
These go on and off together with the temp guage failure. (The engine
keeps running.) I suspect these are also failed when the car won't
start, but the lights are just on anyway, so you can't tell.
The car has had wiring problems before, but I don't see where these
sensors have anything in common, other than the computer (PCM). But,
the engine does keep running, so it can't be totally crapped out. I
hate to have to spring for a new PCM, just to find out whether that's
bad.
Any thoughts/experience would be appreciated.
Thanks,
George
Noozer - 09 May 2007 01:21 GMT
Bad ground someplace...
> '99 Cavalier, 2.2L. On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
> After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK. When it won't start, the temp
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> Thanks,
> George
George - 09 May 2007 01:49 GMT
>Bad ground someplace...
I don't really like to think that - too much work. Aside from that,
though, the oil & coolant level sensors are switched to ground in the
fault state. So, a bad ground on the sensors couldn't cause a fault ...
which pushes the problem back toward the PCM. Meanwhile, the
open-circuit ECT voltage from the PCM reads OK (5v) when the temp gauge
is failed. And, for that matter, the engine does run in the 'fault'
state - it just won't start.
But, you may well be right. Before I start looking, I'm going to hope
really hard that someone else has a magic bullet.
Thanks,
G
>> '99 Cavalier, 2.2L. On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
>> After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK. When it won't start, the temp
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>> Thanks,
>> George
George - 11 May 2007 03:42 GMT
>Bad ground someplace...
Well, it was a somewhat broken wire, down near the PCM. Or so it seems
- it wasn't as hot today as yesterday.
G
>> '99 Cavalier, 2.2L. On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
>> After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK. When it won't start, the temp
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>> Thanks,
>> George
easterwabbit - 09 May 2007 01:46 GMT
hi therei vote for either ignition module, or for temp sender for the
ECM, or possibly the crank sensor
all of which commonly fail and can/do cause this symptom
will have to rule each one out independantly
the module can be tested at almost any parts store for free
the sensors are cheap and i would replace the crank one regardless
they are very common to fail
good luck
> '99 Cavalier, 2.2L. On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
> After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK. When it won't start, the temp
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> Thanks,
> George