Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
HomeAnnouncements
Discussion Groups
By Brand
BMWChevroletDodgeFordGMHondaLexusMercedes-BenzNissanPeugeotToyotaVolkswagenOther Brands
By Topic
4x4 CarsRVsDrivingMaintenance & RepairCar AudioCollectible Cars
Country Specific
Australian ForumsUK Forums
ArticlesAuto InsuranceBuyingCars & TechnologyMaintenanceMiscellaneousSafety
DMV Resources
Related Topics
MotorcyclesBoatsMore Topics ...

Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2007

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Cavalier: won't start when engine hot

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
George - 09 May 2007 01:00 GMT
'99 Cavalier, 2.2L.  On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK.  When it won't start, the temp
gauge is stuck on cold.  As soon as this starts working, the engine
starts.  So, maybe a bad ECT.

But, after starting, the temp guage will intermittently fail again; and,
when it does, the oil, battery, and coolant alarm lights all come on.
These go on and off together with the temp guage failure.  (The engine
keeps running.)  I suspect these are also failed when the car won't
start, but the lights are just on anyway, so you can't tell.

The car has had wiring problems before, but I don't see where these
sensors have anything in common, other than the computer (PCM).  But,
the engine does keep running, so it can't be totally crapped out.  I
hate to have to spring for a new PCM, just to find out whether that's
bad.

Any thoughts/experience would be appreciated.

Thanks,
George
Noozer - 09 May 2007 01:21 GMT
Bad ground someplace...

> '99 Cavalier, 2.2L.  On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
> After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK.  When it won't start, the temp
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks,
> George
George - 09 May 2007 01:49 GMT
>Bad ground someplace...

I don't really like to think that - too much work.  Aside from that,
though, the oil & coolant level sensors are switched to ground in the
fault state.  So, a bad ground on the sensors couldn't cause a fault ...
which pushes the problem back toward the PCM.  Meanwhile, the
open-circuit ECT voltage from the PCM reads OK (5v) when the temp gauge
is failed.  And, for that matter, the engine does run in the 'fault'
state - it just won't start.

But, you may well be right.  Before I start looking, I'm going to hope
really hard that someone else has a magic bullet.

Thanks,
G

>> '99 Cavalier, 2.2L.  On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
>> After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK.  When it won't start, the temp
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> Thanks,
>> George
George - 11 May 2007 03:42 GMT
>Bad ground someplace...

Well, it was a somewhat broken wire, down near the PCM.  Or so it seems
- it wasn't as hot today as yesterday.

G

>> '99 Cavalier, 2.2L.  On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
>> After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK.  When it won't start, the temp
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> Thanks,
>> George
easterwabbit - 09 May 2007 01:46 GMT
hi therei vote for either ignition module, or for temp sender for the
ECM, or possibly the crank sensor

all of which commonly fail and can/do cause this symptom

will have to rule each one out independantly

the module can be tested at almost any parts store for free

the sensors are cheap and i would replace the crank one regardless
they are very common to fail

good luck

> '99 Cavalier, 2.2L.  On warm days, with a hot engine, it won't start.
> After sitting a couple of hours, it's OK.  When it won't start, the temp
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks,
> George
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.