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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2007About Spark Plugs
what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality plug or not. >what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say >Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality >plug or not. Bosch is my last choice in plugs even if they are recommended by the manufacturer. Champion is usually avoided. There is almost always a better plug available for the job. Your best bet is usually the manufacturers recommendation for the engine. UR gonna get a bunch of opinions on this one - none particularly scientific Lugnut >>what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say >>Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lugnut LOL ain't that the truth! I drive OLD cars... the kind that used to run on leaded high-test etc. and IMHO (which is worth exactly what you paid for it) I run Autolite or Bosch Supers. Only the cheap, regular, non-platinum plugs. Champions are good but if you fuel foul them they are done. Platinums are good for new grocery getters that get a plug change every 10 years or 100K miles whichever comes first but put them in something that burns a little oil or doesn't have perfect mixture control and they are done. Bosch Plats are notorious for this but others aren't a whole lot better. I just run the cheapies and replace them per mfgrs. recommendations and that serves me just fine, also I don't have problems with stripped threads because I a) have them out more often than your average bear and b) use anti-seize religiously. It is NOT optional on aluminum heads, BTW, use it or run the risk of me laughing at you and saying "I told you so" <G> just my $0.02 (not adjusted for inflation) nate  Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > LOL ain't that the truth! > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > nate Im pretty much on your side, Nate. I have used them all, have never had any major problems with any of them, EXCEPT when I bought some crossout plugs that were obviously wrong. The threaded section on these plugs was far shorter than the plugs they were supposed to replace. The problem was not quality, but application. Many tell me that plugs are more sensitive than I give them credit for being. So far, this has absolutely not been my experience. I used to believe in Champion spark plugs.Years and years ago I tried some Autolite (AP 64) spark plugs in my 1978 Dodge van.I am sold on Autolite spark plugs for my old van. One time I tried a set of Splitfire spark plugs in my van.Within half an hour one of them quit working.I removed that Splitfire spark plug and I put one of my old spark plugs back in there.Two days later,another Splitfire spark plug quit working.I removed all of those Splitfire spark plugs and I put my old spark plugs back in. cuhulin > I used to believe in Champion spark plugs.Years and years ago I tried > some Autolite (AP 64) spark plugs in my 1978 Dodge van.I am sold on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > plugs and I put my old spark plugs back in. > cuhulin I dont ever use thet 'trick' sparkplugs like the Splitfires. I just dont see the need for them. I will never waste any of my money on those trick,gimick gadgets spark plugs ever again.I still have those Splitfire spark plugs,I put them back in the box.Even if one of them would fit my lawn mower,I wouldn't use it.When I mow my yard,I always want to get it done and over with so I can sit back and relax for a while. cuhulin >what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say >Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality >plug or not. I haven't had any luck with them and won't buy them anymore. I also won't buy any plug with a "gimmick". I want the plug the OEM put in the car and that is all. Steve B. > I want the plug the OEM put in the car and that is all. I've found that is the best policy. I really don't have alliance to any particular brand, just that the best match is usually what came in the car. Of course once modification begins taking it away from stock, YMMV. I have avoided Champion spark plugs since some years ago when I experience poor performance which a blame on the fact that they had quite high resistance, some plugs being over 100K ohms. I have had much better luck with Autolite and AC. You should be aware that regardless of quality, performance depends a lot on gap and heat range. Heat range will vary between brands, even though the are supposed to be equivalent plugs. > what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say > Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality > plug or not. SignatureMike Walsh West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S.A. My 1978 has two cylinders that are real good at oil fouling.Autolite AP 64 spark plugs work best for my old van.I long since found that out.I am not knocking Champion spark plugs,but I know what works best for me. cuhulin > what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say > Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality > plug or not. Champion is among my favorite plug brands along with Autolite. Really my only inclination with spark plugs is t AVOID Bosch. > what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say > Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality > plug or not. > > text_html_part > 1KDownload As long as you get the proper rating for your car they should all work equally well. The plugs are different only if you buy into the marketing for a given brand name. >> what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say >> Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >As long as you get the proper rating for your car they should Should but don't. Case in point: Bosch cheap platinum plugs WILL cause misfire problems in a car that ran perfectly before the Bosch plugs were put in. I have seen this repeatedly as have many others. Don www.donsautomotive.com > all work equally well. The plugs are different only if you buy into the >marketing for a given brand name. > >> what is your opinions about Champion Spark Plugs as compared to lets say > >> Autolite or NGK or other brands. Do you feel they are a better quality [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > cause misfire problems in a car that ran perfectly before the Bosch > plugs were put in. I have seen this repeatedly as have many others. Buying the cheapest isn't usually a good idea. Maybe if you tried Bosch expensive plugs you would have better results. > Donwww.donsautomotive.com > > > all work equally well. The plugs are different only if you buy into the > >marketing for a given brand name.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - >> Should but don't. Case in point: Bosch cheap platinum plugs WILL >> cause misfire problems in a car that ran perfectly before the Bosch >> plugs were put in. I have seen this repeatedly as have many others. > >Buying the cheapest isn't usually a good idea. Maybe if you tried >Bosch expensive plugs you would have better results. Actually, my experience with the Bosch plugs is that buying the cheapest ones IS usually a good idea. The silvers seem to be pretty reliable and I regularly use them in European cars. The Platinums and the other expensive Bosch plugs are nothing but trouble. --scott Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." > >> Should but don't. Case in point: Bosch cheap platinum plugs WILL > >> cause misfire problems in a car that ran perfectly before the Bosch [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Interesting threaad of comments. Don says the cheap Bosch modelss are no good and you say they are a good product. >> >> Should but don't. Case in point: Bosch cheap platinum plugs WILL >> >> cause misfire problems in a car that ran perfectly before the Bosch [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Interesting threaad of comments. Don says the cheap Bosch modelss are >no good and you say they are a good product. No, Don says the Bosch Platinums are no good, and I agree with them. He describes them as "cheap," possibly because they are cheaper than other platinum plugs. I describe them as "expensive" because they are more expensive than other Bosch plugs. No matter what you call them, they are no good. But the Silvers seem fine. --scott Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." >>> >> Should but don't. Case in point: Bosch cheap platinum plugs WILL >>> >> cause misfire problems in a car that ran perfectly before the Bosch [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >He describes them as "cheap," possibly because they are cheaper than other >platinum plugs. Exactly --compare them to Denso platinum and they are far cheaper. > I describe them as "expensive" because they are more >expensive than other Bosch plugs. No matter what you call them, they are >no good. But the Silvers seem fine. Could be. I use Denso or NGK with no problems. Don www.donsautomotive.com >--scott Kludge wrote: >> I describe them as "expensive" because they are more >>expensive than other Bosch plugs. No matter what you call them, they are >>no good. But the Silvers seem fine. > >Could be. I use Denso or NGK with no problems. What happened to NGK? The NGK plugs have always been solid and dependable and not too long ago they were sixty or seventy cents each and just great. These days, I'm seeing three or four bucks each for the regular NGKs. At that price I might as well use the Bosch Silver that the manufacturer recommends. --scott Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." >>Interesting threaad of comments. Don says the cheap Bosch modelss are >>no good and you say they are a good product. > No, Don says the Bosch Platinums are no good, and I agree with them. Actually it's the small center electrode in the ceramic. Although I got 80K out of them before pulling them. Had a misfire which may or may not have been the plug's fault. There were a couple other possibilities but I just dealt with them all. NGK is building a new spark plugs factory in Sissonville,West Virginia.According to an article at, www.southernautocorridor.com cuhulin |
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