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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2007

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where to buy good quality grease/oil stuff?

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Nate Nagel - 23 May 2007 01:42 GMT
Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
"Performance Tool" which looks to be of about Harbor Freight quality...
 bought a suction gun anyway and it's already in the trash.  I am quite
jealous of my buddy's Blue Point grease gun 'cause it just works...  is
there anywhere to get quality tools without paying Snap-On prices?

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Scott Dorsey - 23 May 2007 02:02 GMT
>Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
>buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
>"Performance Tool" which looks to be of about Harbor Freight quality...
>  bought a suction gun anyway and it's already in the trash.  I am quite
>jealous of my buddy's Blue Point grease gun 'cause it just works...  is
>there anywhere to get quality tools without paying Snap-On prices?

I have an industrial grease gun I ordered from Applied Industrial Technology
and I am very happy with it.  Grainger Supply probably makes something similar.
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Nate Nagel - 24 May 2007 01:50 GMT
>>Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
>>buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
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> and I am very happy with it.  Grainger Supply probably makes something similar.
> --scott

Now that you think about it, I'm going to have to place an order with
either Grainger or McMaster-Carr soon, and I have yet to be disappointed
with the quality of either's products (usually drill bits, taps, reams,
etc.)

nate

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Steve W. - 23 May 2007 04:15 GMT
> Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
> buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
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>
> nate

Look for a Lincoln grease gun they can be filled from bulk or using
tubes. Take a look at the link and you might notice that the Lincoln
looks familiar.
http://snipurl.com/1ln94 for a Lincoln
http://snipurl.com/1lnai to look at the same gun at Snap-On

Lincoln also makes a good suction gun.

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Nate Nagel - 24 May 2007 01:50 GMT
>> Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
>> buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made
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>
> Lincoln also makes a good suction gun.

Thanks, looks like a possibility.  I know they make decent welders but
I've never used any of their other products.

nate

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aarcuda69062 - 24 May 2007 14:05 GMT
> >> Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
> >> buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made
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> nate

16 bucks

http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/ling112.html

Ships out of Fort Wayne In.  you should see it in a day or two.
Nate Nagel - 24 May 2007 18:03 GMT
>>>>Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
>>>>buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made
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>
> Ships out of Fort Wayne In.  you should see it in a day or two.

Yup, I found that same place after someone suggested Lincoln.  I might
give that a try.  The clear tube for the grease gun looks like a "must
have" though - that's a really cool idea, wonder why it hasn't caught
on.  That way you don't have to pump any grease out to see whether it's
loaded with bearing grease or chassis grease...

nate

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pakeha@not.a.real.address.com - 24 May 2007 22:13 GMT
>> >> Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
>> >> buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made
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>
>Ships out of Fort Wayne In.  you should see it in a day or two.

Nah, that one has the solid nipple, the one you want is the same
one I use every day, to lube all the bearings in a 1/4 mile of
conveyor...

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6WA97

The flexable whip is the ticket, and you can get a longer whip
as well...

SteveL
Nate Nagel - 24 May 2007 22:22 GMT
>>>>>Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
>>>>>buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made
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> SteveL

aren't they all the same, with interchangeable doodads?

but you do raise a good point - what do y'all prefer, pistol grip or
lever action, and why?  I think a pistol grip is easier to *use* as
you're usually using your other hand to hold the hose on the zerk, but
does it affect the pressure that you can build if you have to lube an
old trunnion or similar PITA part full of hard, crusty grease?

nate

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pakeha@not.a.real.address.com - 25 May 2007 22:29 GMT
>> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6WA97
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>
>nate

I prefer the pistol grip, mainly because the one hand operation
allows you to hold the nipple on the zerk, and you can build as
much pressure with it as you can make with the lever action, well,
at least I can...  

SteveL
clifto - 26 May 2007 00:37 GMT
>>> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6WA97
>>>
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> much pressure with it as you can make with the lever action, well,
> at least I can...  

Ditto. I think the pump acts as a one-way valve that at least lets one
build up some pressure.

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clifto - 25 May 2007 00:13 GMT
> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6WA97

Man, does that site suck! It displayed the grease gun for about ten seconds,
then it switched to a screen that displayed nothing but a complaint that I
had Javascript turned off. Some sites suck for their insistence on using
JS for things that could be done in simple HTML, but this one actually
goes out of their way to make sure you can't possibly use their site
unless you turn on the virus installer.

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HLS@nospam.nix - 25 May 2007 16:58 GMT
> > http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6WA97
>
> Man, does that site suck!

I have other problems with Grainger...First, their prices are not
particularly good, considering
that they have a wholesale only requirement.  Second, supposedly they wont
sell or ship to
you unless you have a business account and tax number..(Which I dont, at
this time)

I usually do better going to other suppliers.

Dont remember if McMaster Carr is also wholesale only.  They have a lot of
things in their
catalog, but prices are also pretty high.
Pete C. - 27 May 2007 01:31 GMT
> > > http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6WA97
> >
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> things in their
> catalog, but prices are also pretty high.

Grainger's prices vary widely depending on what level of customer you
are. You don't absolutely have to have a tax number since businesses
typically pay taxes on their maintenance supplies anyway, but you do
have to convince them that you at least marginally qualify as a
business.
Pete C. - 24 May 2007 14:59 GMT
> >> Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
> >> buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made
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I don't think the Lincoln welding products and the Lincoln Automotive
products are related. The Lincoln Automotive branded stuff generally
seems to be decent quality.
clifto - 23 May 2007 19:26 GMT
> Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
> buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
> "Performance Tool" which looks to be of about Harbor Freight quality...

Years ago I bought an expensive and supposedly high-quality grease gun.
It never worked right from the beginning. I never noticed before, but
the plunger has no seal on it; it's just a metal plate 1/4" smaller than
the barrel that goes right through the grease instead of pushing it.
The other day I bought a pistol-grip "Performance Tool" gun, and it feels
so much more like a quality tool than the expensive "high-quality" gun
it's replacing. It is also indistinguishable (except in color) from the
$40-50 pistol-grip guns I saw elsewhere under different brand names.
It even has a bulk-fill connector (useless to me) and an air bleed valve.

If by suction gun you mean the vacuum testing type units (some of which
come with tiny brake-bleeding kits), I bought one the other day for $17
or thereabouts at Harbor Freight that seems to be considerably better
quality than the plastic brand-name $35 unit (MityVac?). I even had a
blunder where I got it full of brake fluid, and now that I've drained it
even the paint is unchanged.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=92474

Note please that normally, the worst-quality tools I buy are Craftsman.
Anything lesser that I buy is bought in a pinch, or for a one-time
function (i.e. if it works once it's paid for itself).

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Nate Nagel - 24 May 2007 01:49 GMT
>>Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
>>buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
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> Anything lesser that I buy is bought in a pinch, or for a one-time
> function (i.e. if it works once it's paid for itself).

No, I meant something used for changing fluids in, say, a rear axle with
no drain plug (suck old oil out, clean gun, fill with new fluid, push
into axle)

nate

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Pete C. - 24 May 2007 15:01 GMT
> > Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
> > buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
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> via anarchy and bankruptcy. The actions of the United States Congress are
> completely consistent with the actions one would predict from such a group.

The suction gun indicated is a different thing. One note, is that there
are two MityVac pumps available, the plastic one, and the "silver line"
all metal, rebuildable one which goes for like $50 and is quite good.
Broderick Crawford - 23 May 2007 23:19 GMT
> Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
> buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
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>
> nate

I buy that cheap Walmart crap. It works fine for me.
Nate Nagel - 24 May 2007 01:47 GMT
>>Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
>>buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
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>
> I buy that cheap Walmart crap. It works fine for me.

You mush have better luck than I do.  The suction gun would only suck
for about 1" of its stroke, for me... making filling a transaxle a long,
painful process.  Was actually easier to disassemble the gun, pour it
full of gear oil, then use the gun to push the gear oil into the trans,
lather, rinse, repeat.

nate

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Nate Nagel - 31 May 2007 11:48 GMT
> Specifically I need a grease gun and a suction gun...  where does one
> buy this stuff?  All of the stores around me sell the same stuff made by
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>
> nate

Follow up:  based on recommendations found here I bought a "Lincoln"
brand grease gun and suction gun online at "SJ's discount tools" they
arrived last night and I almost want to go change my transmission oil
now.  At least the suction gun seems real nice, actually sucks
throughout the whole range of plunger travel.  Haven't tried the grease
gun yet because I don't have any grease handy, but the one thing I
noticed is that when you pull the rod out and cock it to the side, it
locks securely (anyone that's ever had one let go while reloading a
grease gun will appreciate the goodness of that feature)

Thanks for the pointers, guys, and it is a sad commentary when I'm all
excited because the tools I just bought appear to work as intended :(

nate

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