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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / June 2007

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Finding the A/C clutch...

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Proctologically Violated©® - 02 Jun 2007 14:49 GMT
Awl--

OK, I'm gonna give this A/C thing a shot, see if the problem really is
electrical by just putting a jump to the A/C clutch.
If I could find it....   :(

I'm assuming I'm looking for something that looks like an idler wheel, with
a belt, with two or more electrical wires coming from it.
Except I don't see any wires!
Nor from the A/C compressor itself.

Mebbe DATS the problem??!!  Chopped off wires??  goodgawd....
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aarcuda69062 - 02 Jun 2007 15:48 GMT
In article <lze8i.9$cZ.3@newsfe12.lga>,
"Proctologically Violated©®"
<entropic3.14decay@optonline2.718.net> wrote:

> Awl--
>
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>
> Mebbe DATS the problem??!!  Chopped off wires??  goodgawd....

it would make a lot more sense if you told what make, model, year
and engine.
Tegger - 05 Jun 2007 01:37 GMT
> Awl--
>
> OK, I'm gonna give this A/C thing a shot, see if the problem really is
> electrical by just putting a jump to the A/C clutch.
> If I could find it....   :(

Wouldn't you think...the clutch would be on the belt-end of the compressor?

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Proctologically Violated©® - 05 Jun 2007 04:38 GMT
>> Awl--
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Wouldn't you think...the clutch would be on the belt-end of the
> compressor?

Yeah, but I don't see any wires.  The clutch is electrically activated, no?
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AWN - 05 Jun 2007 05:34 GMT
You may want to start by just jumping the low pressure switch (easily
shorted with a paperclip in a pinch) - it should be dead easy that way.  I
put my money on low gas or a bad switch.  At least this quick test will let
you know that you are low on refridgerant, have a bad dash switch, or you
need a new pressure switch... or gawd forbid... something worse like a dead
clutch or bad compressor.
If that's of no use to you, I appologize but it has worked for me with every
vehicle I've ever worked on (granted I'm a shadetree at best).
Andrew.

>>> Awl--
>>>
>>> OK, I'm gonna give this A/C thing a shot, see if the problem really is
>>> electrical by just putting a jump to the A/C clutch.
>>> If I could find it....   :(
Proctologically Violated©® - 05 Jun 2007 06:06 GMT
> You may want to start by just jumping the low pressure switch (easily
> shorted with a paperclip in a pinch) - it should be dead easy that way.  I
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> every
> vehicle I've ever worked on (granted I'm a shadetree at best).

Hey, shadetree's *are* the best!  :)

Shouldn't I be able to find wires at the clutch?
And where would I find the low pressure switch?
And by dash switch, you mean the on/off switch, right?

I have found it pretty difficult to trace some circuits in cars.  Worse,
now, w/ boards'n'sh.t.
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> Andrew.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>> electrical by just putting a jump to the A/C clutch.
>>>> If I could find it....   :(
MasterBlaster - 05 Jun 2007 12:08 GMT
> >>>> OK, I'm gonna give this A/C thing a shot, see if the problem
> >>>> really is electrical by just putting a jump to the A/C clutch.
> >>>> If I could find it....   :(

> Shouldn't I be able to find wires at the clutch?
> And where would I find the low pressure switch?

Well, I re-downloaded over 5000 message headers going back to March 3,
and nowhere did I see you mention what car you're working on, so any help
more detailed than "it's right there" will have to wait for you to spill the beans.
Proctologically Violated©® - 05 Jun 2007 14:36 GMT
>> >>>> OK, I'm gonna give this A/C thing a shot, see if the problem
>> >>>> really is electrical by just putting a jump to the A/C clutch.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> more detailed than "it's right there" will have to wait for you to spill
> the beans.

Toyoter corolla wagon, 1990, Honda Accord 1991.
Also, for comparison, 1990 mazda 929S, altho that A/C is still working.
But similarly on the 929S, the engine fan has an electrically operated
clutch (I think!), and I can't find the wires on that, either!
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MasterBlaster - 06 Jun 2007 05:31 GMT
> >> Shouldn't I be able to find wires at the clutch?

> Toyoter corolla wagon, 1990

http://info.rockauto.com/FourSeasons/FourSeasonsDetail.html?57397.jpg

> Honda Accord 1991.

http://67.129.153.73/CGv2Production/Pictures/Honda%20J-Pegs%5C38810Pt0013.jpg

> Also, for comparison, 1990 mazda 929S

http://info.rockauto.com/FourSeasons/FourSeasonsDetail.html?57420.jpg

> But similarly on the 929S, the engine fan has an electrically operated
> clutch (I think!), and I can't find the wires on that, either!

http://info.rockauto.com/BeckArnley/Detail.html?1300152.jpg
Bi-metal coil in the middle controls the speed.
Tegger - 05 Jun 2007 17:26 GMT
>> You may want to start by just jumping the low pressure switch (easily
>> shorted with a paperclip in a pinch) - it should be dead easy that
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Shouldn't I be able to find wires at the clutch?

Why should you? The few I've looked at closely all have the clutch internal
to the compressor and its drive belt pulley. The only wires are those in
the connector block(s) for the compressor itself.

It really helps to have a good shop manual for the car you're working on.
Do you have one?

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AWN - 05 Jun 2007 22:32 GMT
As Tegger suggested, you will likely want to look at a shop manual or sorts
for any detailed kind of answers.  You may get lucky with:

http://www.autozone.com/shopping/repairGuide.htm

If I were to take my best guess though...  I would trace the piping from the
condenser (behind the rad) to the evaporator (should be an aluminum 'soup
can' looking thing (might be encased in plastic with a site glass).  Anyway,
there should be a valve on the low side of this evap with 2 wires on the
harness.  If you jump these two wires, you should effectively jump power to
the clutch.  As for the dash switch, yes, I meant the in-dash AC/FAN or
similar switch.  The relay that controls the compressor usually feeds both
from the low pressure switch and the dash switch.  More aften than not, your
problem will be found easily by checking both of these circuits.  As for
jumping the compressor clutch directly, I have never found any need as I
always use the low pressure switch harness first.  I would imagine it would
be easy enough to do though to test the harness that comes off the clutch
for +12V, GND and maybe a reference wire.  Again, Tegger's advice to consult
a schematic in a manual is very good advice indeed.  There's no substitute
for looking at the proper schematics.
Good luck,
Andrew.

> Hey, shadetree's *are* the best!  :)
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I have found it pretty difficult to trace some circuits in cars.  Worse,
> now, w/ boards'n'sh.t.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 05 Jun 2007 15:12 GMT
On Jun 2, 8:49 am, "Proctologically Violated??"
<entropic3.14de...@optonline2.718.net> wrote:
> Awl--
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Except I don't see any wires!
> Nor from the A/C compressor itself.

On some systems you can see if the clutch is working.  The inner part
of the pully is stationary when the clutch is deactivated- you can see
the center part begin to turn when the clutch engages.
 
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