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peblqmycwoej@yahoo.com - 02 Jun 2007 15:54 GMT

Now you can run any vehicle on FREE energy! The HydroStar can power
your engine with the incredible energy of hydrogen, natures' perfect
fuel. It's more powerful than gas, but it's trapped in every drop of
water. And only the HydroStar can efficiently free hydrogen's potent
energy!
The HyTronics module is the closely guarded secret behind the success
of the HydroStar. A major breakthrough in electronics technology lead
to development of the HyTronics circuitry. Closely controlled high-
energy pulses of electrical power, of precise frequency and duration,
are the trademarks of the HyTronics module.
http://waterfuelafo.blogspot.com/#

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Kjun - 02 Jun 2007 20:11 GMT

peblqmycwoej@yahoo.com wrote in news:1180796091.776127.43340
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> http://waterfuelafo.blogspot.com/#

SOUNDS GREAT! i ordered 2 manuals since i have 2 cars..........thanx alot,
kjun

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Ashton Crusher - 03 Jun 2007 04:06 GMT

>peblqmycwoej@yahoo.com wrote in news:1180796091.776127.43340
>@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>SOUNDS GREAT! i ordered 2 manuals since i have 2 cars..........thanx alot,
>kjun

I reprinted the manual several times and then I burn it to heat my
house. It's like FREE energy !!!

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cuhulin@webtv.net - 03 Jun 2007 15:08 GMT

Do a search for, How to make your own automobile fuel

Moonshiners have been doing it for many years.
cuhulin

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Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 03 Jun 2007 19:21 GMT

On Jun 2, 9:54 am, peblqmycw...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Now you can run any vehicle on FREE energy! The HydroStar can power
> your engine with the incredible energy of hydrogen, natures' perfect
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> energy pulses of electrical power, of precise frequency and duration,
> are the trademarks of the HyTronics module.http://waterfuelafo.blogspot.com/#

Takes exactly as much energy to get the water seperated back to
hydrogen and oxygen as the energy you get oxidizing (burning)
hydrogen with oxygen. Basic physics and chemistry. No free ride. IF
there were a source of free hydrogen on earth that would be great.
Unfortunately, there isn't.

Also, laws of thermodynamics say "you can't even break even!" With
hundred percent efficiency you'd just break even, and have to put into
seperation exactly as much as you'd get out. But in real world every
process has SOME inefficiency, so making hydrogen from water is an
energy losing proposition.

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HLS@nospam.nix - 04 Jun 2007 13:14 GMT

"Don Stauffer in Minnesota" <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in message

> Takes exactly as much energy to get the water seperated back to
> hydrogen and oxygen as the energy you get oxidizing (burning)
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> process has SOME inefficiency, so making hydrogen from water is an
> energy losing proposition.

IMO, even petroleum fits this category. It has been popular because
it has been cheap to exploit, convenient to store and distribute, and
effective as fuel. But with petroleum, we never had to convert energy
into petroleum to make fuel, or even to deal with the consequences
of the combustion products. We were bumming what appeared to be
a free ride.

When we have to start creating fuels which fit those
general criteria, we have to take into account the total costs of energy
production.

It doesnt mean that, someday, we may not be forced to produce alcohol,
or hydrogen, or whatever. It just means that it is not popular yet. And
as we both have said, there is no free lunch.

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Proly the cheapest lunch of all is hydro-electric.

Malthus:
Just too many a.sholes on the planet.

And, as some paleo/anthro guy recently pointed out, not only are there way
too many a.sholes, they are way way bigger a.sholes than just a few hundred
years ago--from a size AND calorie-consuming pov, in this context.

And, all of'em drive SUVs.
And see fit to blog.
a.sholes to screw too much, eat too much, use too much gas, and won't shut
up.
goodgawd.....

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> "Don Stauffer in Minnesota" <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in message
>> Takes exactly as much energy to get the water seperated back to
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> or hydrogen, or whatever. It just means that it is not popular yet. And
> as we both have said, there is no free lunch.

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John S. - 04 Jun 2007 14:16 GMT

On Jun 2, 10:54 am, peblqmycw...@yahoo.com wrote:

Just like clockwork the miracle gasoline savers appear with every
springtime runup in gasoline prices. Is it true the HydroStar can
accomplish the impossible by mixing snake oil and water for a mixture
that has the explosive power of horseshit in a compost pile? Is that
correct?

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