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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / June 2007

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Ticket after selling car

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Dean - 04 Jun 2007 14:33 GMT
Hello all,

My friend sold a broken-down '90s Accura in NJ in January for $400
cash, and got no receipt. It was broken down in her driveway. They
came, fixed it so that it drives ok, and took it away. A few days
later, it got a ticket in NY for $95 for some kind of bad or missing
plates, but the car was not re-registered until mid-March, according
to the judge/DMV.

Is there anything she can do to resolve this, or does she just have to
pay up and call it unlucky?

Thanks for any help!

DeanB
N8N - 04 Jun 2007 15:00 GMT
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> DeanB

IMHO this is why you should always photocopy the title when you assign
it to the new owner.

nate
RayV - 04 Jun 2007 16:33 GMT
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> DeanB

Looks like she may also owe the MVC $25 because the title wasn't
transferred within 10 days.
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/TransferringVehicle.htm

The clowns in Trenton sure are creative coming up with ways to suck
money out of people...
Dean - 04 Jun 2007 16:54 GMT
> > Hello all,
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> The clowns in Trenton sure are creative coming up with ways to suck
> money out of people...

I don't understand - you give the title to the buyer, so how can you
transfer it in 10 days? Isn't this for the buyer to do in 10 days?
E Meyer - 04 Jun 2007 17:25 GMT
On 6/4/07 10:54 AM, in article
1180972470.307785.301590@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, "Dean"
<deanbrown3d@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> Hello all,
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> I don't understand - you give the title to the buyer, so how can you
> transfer it in 10 days? Isn't this for the buyer to do in 10 days?

Until the title is transferred, as far as the state is concerned, the car
still belongs to the seller.  So, regardless of who is supposed to do the
paperwork, ownership and responsibility are not changed until it is done.
C. E. White - 04 Jun 2007 17:30 GMT
> On 6/4/07 10:54 AM, in article
> 1180972470.307785.301590@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, "Dean"
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> paperwork, ownership and responsibility are not changed until it is
> done.

I don't believe this is the case, at least in NC. When I sell a car, I
have to have the title notarized. The new owner doesn't necessarily
have to get a new title immediately, but I sure has heck turn in the
old plate immediately.

Ed
E Meyer - 05 Jun 2007 14:51 GMT
On 6/4/07 11:30 AM, in article 46643e6a$1@kcnews01, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote:

>> On 6/4/07 10:54 AM, in article
>> 1180972470.307785.301590@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, "Dean"
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> Ed

It is definitely the case in Texas.  In fact, if the car is recovered by the
police for any reason, it goes back to the titled owner.  They don't change
the license plates here either.  They stay with the car.
clifto - 05 Jun 2007 19:25 GMT
> <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote:
>> "E Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote...
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> police for any reason, it goes back to the titled owner.  They don't change
> the license plates here either.  They stay with the car.

There's some sort of procedure in Illinois by which one can renounce the
title and disclaim ownership.
E Meyer - 05 Jun 2007 21:35 GMT
On 6/5/07 1:25 PM, in article QcydnaVTncInN_jbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com,

>> <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote:
>>> "E Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote...
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> There's some sort of procedure in Illinois by which one can renounce the
> title and disclaim ownership.

There's a form you can submit (for a fee) in Texas also that declares the
car has been sold.
RayV - 04 Jun 2007 18:49 GMT
> > > Hello all,
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> I don't understand - you give the title to the buyer, so how can you
> transfer it in 10 days? Isn't this for the buyer to do in 10 days?-
You're not supposed to understand Comrade, you are just supposed to
keep forking over money to the legislature.  They will then decide who
gets what and how much of it.
'97ventureowner - 04 Jun 2007 17:23 GMT
It's always a good idea to remove any registration stickers, and keep
any registration documents not necessary for transfer, along with
keeping the  license plates registered to you upon selling/transferring
a vehicle to prevent getting tickets meant for someone else. I live in
NY and I believe a statement like that is printed on our registration
window stickers.

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Mike Romain - 04 Jun 2007 17:24 GMT
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> DeanB

When some j.rk off did that to me, I had to go before a JP and swear
that I sold the vehicle on a certain date.  The police then stopped the
arrest warrant for the unpaid ticket.

Mike
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fweddybear - 04 Jun 2007 18:50 GMT
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> DeanB

   Have your friend get a lawyer...

Fwed
John S. - 04 Jun 2007 18:58 GMT
> Hello all,
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> DeanB

First off your friend should have gotten a receipt, so this is
something to remember in the future.  Secondly, your friend should
have gone down to the DMV after sale and immediately told them the car
had been sold and who it was sold too.  That act will remove your name
from the records even if the new owner fails to reregister.

Your description indicates the judge has seen the DMV records so it
would appear she has already gone to court.  If that is the case she
is out of luck.  If not get all of the evidence available and bring it
to the court well ahead of time.   Sometimes the local DA will show up
early to bargain down cases.  Otherwise when court time comes explain
what happened and hope for mercy.
 
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