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Is my car salvaged?? URGENT

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lovegoogle - 05 Jul 2007 16:31 GMT
Hello, I bought a car from a private party then I looked it up at
Carfax. It has a clean title but at the bottom of the report it said
sold at auction listed as salvage. No red flags just that statement. I
live in Arizona and that is where I bought it. It came from New
Mexico. I called New Mexico DMV and they said it was clean too. I
called an auto auction and they said they sale a good but hard to sale
cars in a Salvage auction. The reason I am so concern is I am getting
an Extended warranty and after I have it and need to use it I don't
want them saying It is a salvage car and not pay for repairs.I did
disclose this to the warranty Co. but they want money no skin of them
they have my money.  I really need the true answer. I looked up many
Carfax cars and never saw this on any car I looked up. I have a clean
title from Arizona too. Thank you!!

Please click here then scroll down
http://www.carfax.com/viewEmailReport.do?a=X8Pk1jYjQ%2BYM9mq56JsqxK6zoKXuTBlRj3r
w6EwArLOM0CcVc36YD9bDgDaCTSi3

Mike Romain - 05 Jul 2007 17:12 GMT
If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.

No used car place will put that title on unless they 'have' to because
it cuts the value of the vehicle by less than half at least usually.

You bought scrap metal, sorry.  The junk yard will pay at least $50.00
for it around here, sometimes a bit more.

Is it one of those flood vehicles they dumped into/across a couple
states to confuse the DMV paper trail?

Mike
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> Hello, I bought a car from a private party then I looked it up at
> Carfax. It has a clean title but at the bottom of the report it said
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> Please click here then scroll down
> http://www.carfax.com/viewEmailReport.do?a=X8Pk1jYjQ%2BYM9mq56JsqxK6zoKXuTBlRj3r
w6EwArLOM0CcVc36YD9bDgDaCTSi3
Proctologically Violated©® - 05 Jul 2007 17:21 GMT
> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>
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> Is it one of those flood vehicles they dumped into/across a couple states
> to confuse the DMV paper trail?

Holy sh.t.....

Are other people as paranoid about this stuff as I am??
Man, I was already spooked enough to always go new, and hold it forever.
Now I"m more spooked.
All the homework the OP did, too....

My thing is, I"m too lazy to really cover my a.s.
So I go new...   and even then....  the fukn dealer on my Honda Fit tried to
sneak in the destination charge TWICE!
Muthafuckas....
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> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
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>> Please click here then scroll down
>> http://www.carfax.com/viewEmailReport.do?a=X8Pk1jYjQ%2BYM9mq56JsqxK6zoKXuTBlRj3r
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lovegoogle - 06 Jul 2007 01:58 GMT
> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>
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But like I said i called New Mexico DMV and they have a clean title.
That is the only place it would have salvage. I don't know I'm still
mixed up someone emailed me it was good. I wish a auction or car
dealer would reply.
Steve W. - 06 Jul 2007 03:06 GMT
>> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>>
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> mixed up someone emailed me it was good. I wish a auction or car
> dealer would reply.

It may have been list as a salvage vehicle AT the auction ONLY. If it
had never been reported as scrap or wrecked to the DMV then the title
would be clear. Some vehicles get put up for auctions as salvage IF they
are high mileage, poor trades, blown engine/trans, vehicles that are
poor sales items. They were never wrecked but could cost more than
wholesale cost to rebuild or may be sold just for the parts.
Personally I wouldn't worry about it IF the vehicle is in good shape,
and has a warrantee.

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PauL - 06 Jul 2007 04:45 GMT
> > If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
> >
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> mixed up someone emailed me it was good. I wish a auction or car
> dealer would reply.

A place I once worked for used to buy salvage vehicles.  They were strip
outs - missing seats, front ends, engines, etc.  We would replace the
missing parts and resell them and hopefully make a few hundred on each
vehicle.
Mike Romain - 06 Jul 2007 14:53 GMT
>> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>>
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> mixed up someone emailed me it was good. I wish a auction or car
> dealer would reply.

Where was it registered 'before' MN?

I have worked in car lots and been to auctions and believe me a
'salvage' vehicle is usually sold for parts because it is worth no money
as it sits.

If it was listed as an insurance write off so the owner got his full
value for it and a wrecker paid fifty or so for it, fixed whatever and
tried to sucker someone by selling it as 'whole' again by flipping states.

They do that here in Canada too because the different provinces are not
linked for DMV data.

I had one friend bring me 4 different cars to look at and 'all' of them
had 'serious' extensive repairs done, the paint as still wet on one that
'had never been in a accident'.  Every freaking one had only been
registered in this province for a short time and they were to a leasing
company or it's owner.

Good Luck!

Mike
lovegoogle - 06 Jul 2007 16:44 GMT
> >> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>
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Please read the Carfax report link I put on my question. It was reg in
CA. first then auction in NM then Here in AZ. I still don't have a
clear answer. http://www.carfax.com/viewEmailReport.do?a=X8Pk1jYjQ%2BYM9mq56JsqxK6z...
Mike Romain - 06 Jul 2007 17:32 GMT
>>>> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>>>> No used car place will put that title on unless they 'have' to because
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> CA. first then auction in NM then Here in AZ. I still don't have a
> clear answer. http://www.carfax.com/viewEmailReport.do?a=X8Pk1jYjQ%2BYM9mq56JsqxK6z...

More bad news!

It has liens registered against it too!

This car was written off and jumped around a $tealership network to
confuse the paper trail and maybe to try and lose the 'real' owner or
lien holder.

It was then written off as salvage in NM for whatever reason and a new
title had to be issued in 'another' state because it is ILLEGAL in New
Mexico to re-register a junk pile or 'salvage' vehicle.

I got this from the Carfax site, click on the 'salvage' link beside the
titles problem section for this above info.

You 'really' bought a bad vehicle, sorry.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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lovegoogle - 06 Jul 2007 18:02 GMT
> >>>> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
> >>>> No used car place will put that title on unless they 'have' to because
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I just went to my MVD and showed them the title they gave me and the
carfax report and they said all is fine in a nut shell. Thanks for
your replies. I should hve done this a long time ago. She also said
that salvage can mean the car wasn't worth selling it is a very basic
auto. As for a liens a lien is when u borrow to pay for car. I don't
need anymore replies I got the answer from the MVD. Thanks
Mike Romain - 06 Jul 2007 19:48 GMT
>>>>>> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>>>>>> No used car place will put that title on unless they 'have' to because
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> auto. As for a liens a lien is when u borrow to pay for car. I don't
> need anymore replies I got the answer from the MVD. Thanks

Here in Canada the lien holder is the legal owner and can come and take
the car at any time.

The guy who bought it in New Mexico spotted the lien and scrapped the
vehicle as salvage so it could get a new title in another state.

Have you ever seen the 'repo man' TV show.  LOL!

I bought one Jeep with a lien.  I had to call long distance to the bank
that held it to get them to officially close the loan and fax that to me
before I would finalize the vehicle purchase.

Mike
lovegoogle - 06 Jul 2007 16:50 GMT
> >> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Also the car is an S model no air no power locks or windows no tilt
wheel very basic. I did add air since I bought it. I just want to know
if my warranty is good that is all that is on my mind it runs great
and has 29000 miles
Don - 06 Jul 2007 17:36 GMT
>> >> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>>
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>if my warranty is good that is all that is on my mind it runs great
>and has 29000 miles

Not even factoring in the salvage issue, most extended warranties are
useless in any case.

Don
www.donsautomotive.com
lovegoogle - 07 Jul 2007 04:35 GMT
> >> >> If yourcargot listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>
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> - Show quoted text -

I had a Ford Taurus and had a extended warranty. I needed a new trans.
the extended Warranty paid the $5,000 bill. I think they are great.I
paid $989.00 for the warranty.
Don - 07 Jul 2007 14:40 GMT
>> >> >> If yourcargot listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>>
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>the extended Warranty paid the $5,000 bill. I think they are great.I
>paid $989.00 for the warranty.

$5000 seems awfully high for even a complete transmission replacement.
In any case I am happy for you that received more on your claim than
what the warranty cost you.
That circumstance is extremely rare.  Far more common is not having
received a dime in claims when the contract expires.  Also common is
for warranty companies to go bankrupt.

Don
www.donsautomotive.com
lovegoogle - 07 Jul 2007 15:22 GMT
> >> >> >> If yourcargot listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>
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Why so negitive. This Place Has been in business 1989 and with BBB.
And if you ever had work at a dealer the smallest job is $1000 so a
transmission would be $5,000. They are high but skin of my back with
the warranty. I don't believe ex Warranties are good for small thing
you buy at the store but big things like a car is well worth it. It
also has ware and tear.  I am a skeptic and I researched the warranty
thing for days.
clifto - 07 Jul 2007 15:50 GMT
> Why so negitive. This Place Has been in business 1989 and with BBB.
> And if you ever had work at a dealer the smallest job is $1000 so a
> transmission would be $5,000.

I once had my oil changed at a dealer for under $800!

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Proctologically Violated©® - 07 Jul 2007 17:27 GMT
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>> Why so negitive. This Place Has been in business 1989 and with BBB.
>> And if you ever had work at a dealer the smallest job is $1000 so a
>> transmission would be $5,000.
>
> I once had my oil changed at a dealer for under $800!
Don - 07 Jul 2007 17:53 GMT
>> >> >> >> If yourcargot listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>>
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>also has ware and tear.  I am a skeptic and I researched the warranty
>thing for days.

The only way a warranty company can stay afloat is to pay out far less
$$$ than they take in.  Operating expenses, commissions etc. eat up
the bulk of the premiums.   Overall those members of the public that
purchase these lose big time.  

Don
www.donsautomotive.com
Tim B - 17 Jul 2007 02:10 GMT
> > >I had a Ford Taurus and had a extended warranty. I needed a new trans.
> > >the extended Warranty paid the $5,000 bill. I think they are great.I
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> also has ware and tear.  I am a skeptic and I researched the warranty
> thing for days.

How much was the deductible?
John S. - 07 Jul 2007 18:49 GMT
> > >> If your car got listed as 'salvage'. then that is what is is.
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Basically with an aftermarket warranty you are prepaying the cost of
repairs up front and betting (or hoping) that your car will incur
enough repairs including deductibles to offset the cost of the
warranty and then some.  It is usually a bet that the warranty
companies win.
ray - 07 Jul 2007 19:55 GMT
> Basically with an aftermarket warranty you are prepaying the cost of
> repairs up front and betting (or hoping) that your car will incur
> enough repairs including deductibles to offset the cost of the
> warranty and then some.  It is usually a bet that the warranty
> companies win.

I just prefer not to buy cars that require big a.s repair bills like
that... lol...
Proctologically Violated©® - 07 Jul 2007 20:14 GMT
>> Basically with an aftermarket warranty you are prepaying the cost of
>> repairs up front and betting (or hoping) that your car will incur
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I just prefer not to buy cars that require big a.s repair bills like
> that... lol...

Such as??
CR recommended cars?
Other ways to tell?
Edmunds gives a "true cost to own".  Don't know how well it factors in
reliability/repairs.
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Ron Schofield - 09 Jul 2007 12:54 GMT
> Hello, I bought a car from a private party then I looked it up at
> Carfax. It has a clean title but at the bottom of the report it said
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Please click here then scroll down
> http://www.carfax.com/viewEmailReport.do?a=X8Pk1jYjQ%2BYM9mq56JsqxK6zoKXuTBlRj3r
w6EwArLOM0CcVc36YD9bDgDaCTSi3

A Salvage Title is issued on a vehicle damaged to the extent that the
cost of repairing the vehicle exceeds ~ 75% of its pre-damage value.
This damage threshold may vary by state. Some states treat Junk titles
the same as Salvage but the majority use this title to indicate that a
vehicle is not road worthy and cannot be titled again in that state. The
following ten States also use Salvage titles to identify stolen vehicles
- AZ, FL, GA, IL, MD, MN, NJ, NM, NY, OK and OR.
Mike Romain - 09 Jul 2007 15:24 GMT
>> Hello, I bought a car from a private party then I looked it up at
>> Carfax. It has a clean title but at the bottom of the report it said
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> following ten States also use Salvage titles to identify stolen vehicles
> - AZ, FL, GA, IL, MD, MN, NJ, NM, NY, OK and OR.

Then there is this, it has liens on it and was sent to salvage in
another state then sold to get a new title in yet another state to try
and lose the paper trail so the repo man can't come and take it back for
the 'real' owner or lien holder, so....

Mike
John S. - 09 Jul 2007 13:51 GMT
> Hello, I bought a car from a private party then I looked it up at
> Carfax. It has a clean title but at the bottom of the report it said
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Please click here then scroll downhttp://www.carfax.com/viewEmailReport.do?a=X8Pk1jYjQ%2BYM9mq56JsqxK6z...

Is there some reason you didn't run the carfax report BEFORE buying
the car rather than after?  I would worry about this being a car that
was junked in a natural disaster like the Katrina hurricane.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 17 Jul 2007 03:10 GMT
> Hello, I bought a car from a private party then I looked it up at Carfax.
> It has a clean title but at the bottom of the report it said sold at
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Please click here then scroll down
> http://www.carfax.com/viewEmailReport.do?a=X8Pk1jYjQ%2BYM9mq56JsqxK6zoKXuTBlRj3r
w6EwArLOM0CcVc36YD9bDgDaCTSi3

I used to work at a dealer where we used to sell Salvage Title vehicles
all the time. Of course, in MASS, youy *HAVE* to tell the buyer it's a
Salvage Title car.

And I also used to sell Extended Warranties. No Problem!
 
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