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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / July 2007

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AIR CONDITIONING PROBLEM???

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02civic - 13 Jul 2007 01:36 GMT
when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
ignored!,  when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
stuttering.  both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
turn off air conditioning.  any advice will be appreciated!!ty
Steve B. - 13 Jul 2007 02:58 GMT
>when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
>get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
>ignored!,  when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
>and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
>stuttering.  both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
>turn off air conditioning.  any advice will be appreciated!!ty

The system is low on refrigerant causing the compressor to click off
an on.  Take it in and have it repaired / recharged as needed.

          Steve B.
02civic - 13 Jul 2007 04:14 GMT
> >when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> >get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
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>            Steve B.
sounds likely. thnx 4 the advice,il look into having this done....PS
ive seen do it urself recharge kits at autozone/pep boys. worth it? or
better 2 go 2 a garage?     thanx again.
Steve B. - 13 Jul 2007 05:14 GMT
>> >when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
>> >get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
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>ive seen do it urself recharge kits at autozone/pep boys. worth it? or
>better 2 go 2 a garage?     thanx again.

Better to go to a garage where they have a good set of gauges and can
see the low and high side pressures.  With those you see in the parts
store you just get a guesstimate low pressure gauge.  

What make / mode / yearl car are you dealing with?

                      Steve B.
02civic - 13 Jul 2007 20:27 GMT
> >> >when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> >> >get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
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>                        Steve B.

02 honda civic....bought recharge kit and its gauges say more freon
not needed.   theres also a strange mildewy smell which results in
sore throat after breathing it in 4 awhile.
Steve B. - 13 Jul 2007 23:02 GMT
>02 honda civic....bought recharge kit and its gauges say more freon
>not needed.   theres also a strange mildewy smell which results in
>sore throat after breathing it in 4 awhile.

You could have other issues but I would start by getting the charge
checked by  pro.  Those little gauge on a can things are about as
accurate as spinning in a circle three times and pulling a number out
of a bowl.

The a/c evaporator (the part in the car) condenses the water out of
the air while it cools.  The water is supposed to drip outside but the
drain can clog and things in that area generally stay wet and get
mildewy. The a/c shop should have something to spray in there and take
care of that too.

        Steve B.
Comboverfish - 14 Jul 2007 04:13 GMT
> >when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> >get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
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>
>            Steve B.

If a Civic A/C system can even engage (high side pressure over a
certain threshold), then it will remain on until the evaporator gets
cold enough to change the evap temp sensor's state.  If his system was
low on refrigerant it would tend to stay on continuously.  Excessive
high pressure or temp could cut operation, as could a slew of
electrical or clutch problems.  They do not pressure cycle like CCOT/
accumulator systems.

A bad temp sensor or evaporator that is thermally insulated with
matted debris (so that it cannot absorb heat) will cause quick cycling
if the system is at proper charge.

Toyota MDT in MO
Steve B. - 14 Jul 2007 16:12 GMT
>A bad temp sensor or evaporator that is thermally insulated with
>matted debris (so that it cannot absorb heat) will cause quick cycling
>if the system is at proper charge.
>
>Toyota MDT in MO

Hmmmm...  and a matted evaporator would also add to the mold and
mildew accumulation giving the smell and sore throat complaint he also
has.  You might be on to something there!

            Steve B.
cuhulin@webtv.net - 14 Jul 2007 18:08 GMT
Before my old Dearborn home window unit air conditiner kicked the bucket
two years ago, that old unit was about 35 years old. (of course I bought
a new air conditioner two years ago) I think it was Packard that had the
first auto air conditioners on the market in 1939.Geez, you would think
after all of these years auto air conditioners would have been improved
enough so that they would give almost no problems at all for many
years.I think the experimental ROVAC air conditioner for autos was a
great idea, no refrigerant to worry about.It's like those cheap plastic
wheels on my walk behind lawn mower, a new wheel at the Wal Mart store
cost me about $7.00.The auto air conditioning industry needs to wake up.
cuhulin
 
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