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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / July 2007

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sherry56 - 13 Jul 2007 16:27 GMT
hello can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the refridgerent
goe's on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso? heck i don't even know where the ac
unit is. i was told that is what i needed and i got a can with a little hose
and a gauge on it. thank you sherry
Comboverfish - 13 Jul 2007 17:26 GMT
> hello can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the refridgerent
> goe's on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso? heck i don't even know where the ac
> unit is. i was told that is what i needed and i got a can with a little hose
> and a gauge on it. thank you sherry

Don some nonflammable duds for the ensuing flames.

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cuhulin@webtv.net - 13 Jul 2007 18:36 GMT
It is the new way of public school (edijuficashun) spelling, y'all.

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Tegger - 14 Jul 2007 02:34 GMT
>> hello can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the
>> refridgerent goe's on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso? heck i don't
>> even know where the ac unit is. i was told that is what i needed and
>> i got a can with a little hose and a gauge on it. thank you sherry
>
> Don some nonflammable duds for the ensuing flames.

...and Bob's your uncle.

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Comboverfish - 14 Jul 2007 03:42 GMT
> >> hello can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the
> >> refridgerent goe's on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso? heck i don't
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> ...and Bob's your uncle.

Heh heh...
Cute callback!

Toyota MDT in MO
hls - 13 Jul 2007 20:03 GMT
> hello can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the refridgerent
> goe's on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso? heck i don't even know where the
> ac
> unit is. i was told that is what i needed and i got a can with a little
> hose
> and a gauge on it. thank you sherry

Well, I guess trolls need to keep cool too.
If you bought the 'can with the little hose and gauge on it' at an auto
parts
store, I suggest you go back there and ask the friendly counterman to
show you where and how to put it in.  He should be happy to comply.
larry moe 'n curly - 14 Jul 2007 13:46 GMT
> hello can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the refridgerent
> goes on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso?

R-134a

> i was told that is what i needed and i got a can with a little hose and a gauge on it.

Have you tried a Dodge or Neon enthusiast website, like www.DodgeForum.com?
There's also
www.aircondition.com , a site dedicated to automotive A/C and that has
FAQs and forums.

I wouldn't simply recharge the system but would take it to a good
general garage (look for AAA approval because AAA requires binding
arbitration in case of disputes -- binding on the garage, not the
consumer) or automotive A/C specialist, just in case the problem is
something other than low charge.  Because if you put in too much
refrigerant the A/C won't cool well at all, or the pressure may become
high enough to blow the relief valve or even a hose.  :(
Sherry56 - 14 Jul 2007 16:00 GMT
>> hello can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the refridgerent
>> goes on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>refrigerant the A/C won't cool well at all, or the pressure may become
>high enough to blow the relief valve or even a hose.  :(
Thank you very very much larry moe n curly and you too Don. I was afraid i
might have been stepping into a gay forum at first with the responses i got.
They are either gay or little boys. Didn't mean to step on your toe's. Wasn't
trying to come between you and your boyfriend. I came here looking for help
because my husband was killed in Iraq last year. I am doing the best i can
raising 2 boys 5 and 6 years old hence Sherry"56". Well anyway thanks again
Don and Larry Moe n Curly greatly appreciated Sherry
cuhulin@webtv.net - 14 Jul 2007 17:21 GMT
I am sorry your husband was killed in Iraq.My sympathy for y'all.
cuhulin
clifto - 14 Jul 2007 19:01 GMT
> Thank you very very much larry moe n curly and you too Don. I was afraid i
> might have been stepping into a gay forum at first with the responses i got.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> raising 2 boys 5 and 6 years old hence Sherry"56". Well anyway thanks again
> Don and Larry Moe n Curly greatly appreciated Sherry

A's'shole.

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Comboverfish - 14 Jul 2007 19:11 GMT
> > Thank you very very much larry moe n curly and you too Don. I was afraid i
> > might have been stepping into a gay forum at first with the responses i got.
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>
> A's'shole.

Classic!

BTW, I would much rather be gay than a stupid, worthless bitch.

Toyota MDT in MO
hls - 15 Jul 2007 00:11 GMT
"Sherry56 via CarKB.com" <u35813@uwe> wrote in message
> Thank you very very much larry moe n curly and you too Don. I was afraid i
> might have been stepping into a gay forum at first with the responses i
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> again
> Don and Larry Moe n Curly greatly appreciated Sherry

You have started into something that you clearly dont know sh.t about. And
you have replied like a real bitch.

You clearly dont know enough to even start the project.

Get help, before you hurt yourself or damage your car.
larry moe 'n curly - 15 Jul 2007 17:43 GMT
> can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the refridgerant
> goes on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso?

Another link:  www.familycar.com/ac1.htm

Can you describe the symptoms in more detail so that some of the
experts here can help better?

Does the A/C cool at all?  When you turn it on, is there a loud snap
or click from the engine compartment and a momentary decrease in idle
speed, indicating that the compressor clutch has engaged?

Does the radiator fan run when the A/C is turned on?  If there's more
than one fan, are both spinning?  Some cars use a single fan that runs
at two speeds, and I think it's supposed to run at high speed when the
A/C is used.

If the A/C cools at all, then adding more refrigerant may solve
everything.  Here's how I do it without proper pressure guages, but
keep in mind that it's NOT the proper way and that I'm no expert:

You'll need a 2-3 quart pan or pot, a pair of dial-type food
thermometers that can read below freezing, some tape and wire, and
some insulating material (sponge, cotton, rags, several layers of
tissue paper).

Verify that the thermometers are accurate by holding their tips
togetrher while stirring them in ice water.  They should read 32F when
you do this, but it's OK if they're off a bit, provided that both read
identically because you'll be checking a temperature difference more
than absolute temperatures.  Attach the tip of one thermometer
directly to one of the evaporator coil's pipes near the firewall, the
other's directly to the evaporator's other pipe.  It's possible that
one of the pipes is located on the accumulator/dryer (silver or black
vertical cylinder, about 3-5" diameter).  Close the doors and windows,
start the engine and turn the A/C to max and high speed.  If possible,
do this when the outdoor temperature is about 70-80F.  Maintain a fast
idle speed.  The thermometers should slowly cool down, but one will
probably cool down much less than the other.  Add R-134a until either
the two thermometers read about the same or the pressure is high
enough.

The charging valve looks like a tire valve, only about twice as fat,
but like a tire valve, it has a screw-on cap, probably made of black
plastic.  You want to charge through the low pressure (suction)
charging valve, but fortunately with R-134a systems the low and high
pressure valves are different sizes, making it virtually impossible to
connect to the wrong one.  But if you're nervous, the low pressure
valve is the cooler one.  It may be located inline with the suction
pipe, or it may be located on the accumulator-drier (black or silver
vertical cylinder, about 3-6" diameter).

I don't know if it's necessary, but I purge air out of the charging
hose before attaching it to the A/C by cracking open the valve on the
R-134a bottle for a second or two and letting out some of the gas
while attaching the hose to the A/C fitting.  But some hoses have
their own valve, in which case you'll have to open the valve on the
bottle and press on the hose's valve stem for 1-2 seconds with a
screwdriver to let out gas.

To charge the system the bottle of R-134a has to sit upright in a
container of warm (100F) water to prevent it from freezing and losing
pressure, and it has to be upright so that only gaseous R-134a enters
the system because liquid R-134a can slam the compressor.  It can be a
challenge to maintain the bottle upright, so consider rigging some
kind of holder.

Charge slowly so that you don't overcharge.  Turn the bottle's valve
open just a little, and watch the two thermometers.  If they don't
drop after 30 seconds AND your pressure guage reads less than 20 PSI,
crack it open a bit more.  The two thermometers should read lower, and
when both read almost the same cold temperature (probably 35-40F) OR
the guage reads just over 21 PSI, turn the valve shut..
Don - 14 Jul 2007 14:53 GMT
>hello can someone tell me a site that shows where exactly the refridgerent
>goe's on a 1997 chrysler neon expresso? heck i don't even know where the ac
>unit is. i was told that is what i needed and i got a can with a little hose
>and a gauge on it. thank you sherry

You really shouldn't be doing this without a little more knowledge of
AC systems than you appear to have.

Don
www.donsautomotive.com
 
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