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I have a 2000 pontiac grand am with the 3.4L and auto tranny. I thought a while ago that people had told me that the engine must be running to check the fluid level in this tranny. Checking my Haynes manual it says that the vehicle must be run to op temp and cycle the shifter through the gears ending in park and then shut the engine off and check the level. I can't remember but I thought I did that last time and about a quart and a half came spilling out. Could the Haynes procedure be wrong? Thanks Rico then shut the engine off On Jul 29, 11:36?am, riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > I have a 2000 pontiac grand am with the 3.4L and auto tranny. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Rico > then shut the engine off ======== ======== To answer yer question.......... yes.....the Haynes procedure could be wrong. ~:~ MarshMonster ~sips his crown'n'coke.......man i love it when i can answer a question and KNOW the answer is correct........mmmmmmmmmm .........good stuff~ ~:~ > Checking my Haynes manual it says that the vehicle must be > run to op temp and cycle the shifter through the gears ending [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Could the Haynes procedure be wrong? The procedure could be wrong, BUT, you should never have fluid coming out regardless of how you check. Sounds like someone checked it wrong and overfilled it. Do you have an owners manual for the car? If not, try calling a dealership and ask them. ===== ===== The procedure could be wrong, BUT, you should never have fluid coming out regardless of how you check. Sounds like someone checked it wrong and overfilled it. Do you have an owners manual for the car? If not, try calling a dealership and ask them. ======== ======== Though you answered the OP's direct question absolutely correctly.......we must now take the following actions against you........ . . . WARNING...WARNING....WARNING.... . the above information given has been deemed....... . INCORRECT...MISLEADING....and NON FACTUAL . . Please submit yer official Rec.Autos.Tech support patch now for official destruction, and be advised you are now on the Rec.Autos.Tech Official Yardbird Watchlist untill further notice. . Please feel free to make an official Rec.Autos.Tech Dispute and Habious Corpus (??), if you feel these actions are unfounded. . Untill then...we regret have'n to take this action at this time, but you reeeelly oughta knows whatz yer talk'n bout fer'n yuh go tell'n folks how tuh do tings dat need tuh be dun. . . . ---FACT FINDINGS for SUPPORT of ACTION-- . . Finding (A) : . The OP's transmission is a 4L45E . . Finding (B) . The OP's transmission does NOT have a dipstick. (preexempting the driver) . . Finding (C) . A 4L45E Transmission MUST..repeat..MUST...puke fluid in order to firmly, and factually, confirm the unit is full. . . Finding (D) . The front office is rite on this one.......trust us. (all the same, submit yer rebutle if you wish..it's yer rite) . . . ~~ oo L O . . ~:~ marshmonster ~takes a toke......wonders if ..ANYONE...is ever gonna ask the rite questions on this one~ ~:~ > . > Finding (A) : > . > The OP's transmission is a 4L45E > . Wouldn't that be a 4T45E? Thanks, But the original question was....Is the engine running or off? What is the exact procedure? Monster??? Thanks R On Jul 30, 9:44 am, riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > Thanks, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > R It's a simple answer you want, eh? Well, allright..... Assuming that you have the 4T40E (I'm no GM guru so assuming *is* what I have to do based on lack of info), your transaxle has no dipstick. There is a fill/vent cap and a level indicating check plug. The short answer is the engine must be running throughout the check/fill procedure. If the engine is turned off with the check plug out, fluid will gush out of it's hole. Procedure starting with a cold car: Lift and support the car *level* or find some way to get under it... car must be level. Start car for about 5 minutes to warm up fluid to just above ambient -- approx. 100* F. Foot on brake, run through all of the gear positions slowly, then back to park. Remove the check plug; if fluid runs out, replace plug when it stops; if no fluid runs out, add Dexron III until it does run out, then replace the plug. Toyota MDT in MO ====== ====== On Jul 30, 9:44?am, riicom... wrote: . But the original question was....Is the engine running or off? ?What is the exact procedure? . Monster??? . Thanks . R ======== ======== That is a LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please, if yer gonna start a thread, at leasssssssst...... read what yer type'n. YOUR.......original question was...... (and i do not quote, i copy and paste) . Could the Haynes procedure be wrong? . . So.......I believe that I, me, myself, the monsterduder, answered THE question, YOUR question, THE ONLY question in the OP.......... . shortly...to point...and CORRECTLY. . However......be'n as yer git'n a bitofsht from the rest of the guys in the shop.....i'ma gonna feel sorry for you and answer those 2 above for you at NO CHARGE...FREE........ HEY.........JOHN..S........... rip this guys ticket up, he's haven a hard life rite now and ima gonna fix his car fer free....probono. Yeah...i herd what he said bout the manual and all..... but sht......even retards need a break ever onced ina whilst.....so ripp his ticket and I'll take this one on the cuff.....maybe he won't comeback anymore outta shame. OK.........Riic...... John S....said he'd rip up the WorkOrder......so this is gonna be FREE dude......but we're only given you ONE FREE Tech Line call, so THIS TIME.......READ WHAT'S WRITTEN.. and not what YOU think you wrote..oops.. meant what i wrote.. :) <<<<PROBONO TECH SUPPORT>>>> <<<EXACT FILL PROCEEDURE >>> <<<<4T45E 4T40E>>>> (w/o approved by service mngr JohnS) WITH THE VEHICLE RUNNING !!!! . Go to the front of the car......peep under... find the inner CV joint.......... . Crawl yerass under that verylow to the ground frontend with a 7/16...OR....11mm 3/8 drive universal on a 6inch 3/8 extension attached to a 12 inch 3/8 drive ratchet. . Jest forward of the psngr side inner CV joint, (forward being front..towards the front..headed front) yer gonna see a 7/16th pipe plug. . Pull the plug out............... . The unit is full when fluid TRICKLES out of that hole. . That hardass to getoff red cap on top of the transaxle on the drivers side, under all that plumbing and the air cleaner box........is where you pour fluid in. . The transaxle MUST be at operating temperature for correct fill proceedure. (aprox 120* F) ((oooch...dat's hot ain't it)) . . Pour fluid in top hole......... Cap bottom hole when fluid trickles out . <<<<<END...PROBONO TECH SUPPORT>>> anywhoooooo there yee have it.... and don't fergits to shake John's hand on the way out the door.....cuz without the service manglers ok...nut'n free!!!! in closing...... the next time you want the answer you want...... ask the question you need to ask to get it. cuz....well.....you may ONLY get the answer to the question you asked. ~:~ MarshMonster ~sips his shroomjuice....mmmmmm........ goodstuff~ ~:~ ======== ========= Marsh Monster wrote: . ? ? The OP's transmission is a 4L45E ======== ======== . Wouldn't that be a 4T45E? ====== ====== you are correct that i was incorrect, and you correctly corrected my incorrection by correctly pointing out that i incorrectly used the L instead of correctly using a T, in which case I would have been correct and yer correction would have been unnecessary . whith that said........ oooooooooops ~:~ ~takes a toke.......fk it~ ~:~ On Jul 29, 12:36 pm, riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > I have a 2000 pontiac grand am with the 3.4L and auto tranny. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > run to op temp and cycle the shifter through the gears ending > in park and then shut the engine off and check the level. It would be a very good idea for you to use a reference like the owners manual and follow those instructions. > I can't remember but I thought I did that last time and about a > quart and a half came spilling out. OK, so did you refill the transmission after 1.5 quarts spilled out. That is a LOT of transmission fluid. If you refilled it then there is a very good chance it is overfilled. > Could the Haynes procedure be wrong? If could be wrong, but I suspect for a simple procedure like this Haynes is correct. Still, please read the owners manual - this information should be in that very important booklet. > Thanks > > Rico > then shut the engine off I don't understand. > On Jul 29, 12:36 pm, riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > If could be wrong, but I suspect for a simple procedure like this > Haynes is correct. Still, please read the owners manual - this > information should be in that very important booklet. ===== If the owner's manual gave the procedure I wouldn't have consulted Haynes or posted to this group. It simply says to take the vehicle to a dealer to have it checked. R On Jul 30, 12:33 pm, riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > > On Jul 29, 12:36 pm, riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > R That is not at all apparent from your message. And given that you may or may not have spilled almost 2 quarts from the transmission fluid the last time you tried I think you should consider having it checked by a dealer. Or call the dealer repair shop and ask them for the steps. On Jul 30, 11:33 am, riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > > On Jul 29, 12:36 pm, riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > R Just out of curiosity, did you read my answer posted earlier? For all I know, direct Google Groups posts may not show on your newsreader. Toyota MDT in MO riicom...@netscape.net wrote: > Could the Haynes procedure be wrong? That would be a first. :) Haynes can be kind of generic at times. |
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