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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2007

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Correct air pressure for 2000 Honda Civic tires?

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Joe - 09 Aug 2007 23:14 GMT
The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
who seemed pretty knowledgeable and he filled up the front tires to
40psi and the back to 35psi. Why did he do that when the door panel
says 30?
Mike Romain - 09 Aug 2007 23:45 GMT
> The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
> who seemed pretty knowledgeable and he filled up the front tires to
> 40psi and the back to 35psi. Why did he do that when the door panel
> says 30?

He obviously was a 'lot' less knowledgeable than he let on eh.

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Tegger - 10 Aug 2007 02:03 GMT
Joe <joe5345@gmail.com> wrote in news:1186697679.797965.211030
@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

> The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
> who seemed pretty knowledgeable and he filled up the front tires to
> 40psi and the back to 35psi. Why did he do that when the door panel
> says 30?

I suppose when customers drive out with higher pressures, this results in
fewer comebacks than when they leave with lower pressures. Few people check
their tires on a regular basis, so...

He probably overinflated to seat the beads, then dropped it down a bit
after. Lower the pressure yourself (cold!) back to 30. You may find your
tires spec at about 45psi max pressure, so that brief visit to 40 did no
damage.

Say, do your new tires vibrate at around 55-60 mph? Just asking.

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Nate Nagel - 10 Aug 2007 02:19 GMT
> Joe <joe5345@gmail.com> wrote in news:1186697679.797965.211030
> @m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Say, do your new tires vibrate at around 55-60 mph? Just asking.

Most tires say on the sidewall what pressure is allowed to seat the
beads and I've never seen any that don't allow at least 40 PSI for that
purpose.  Most then spec 32-25 PSI max pressure, with a few spec'd at
41.  So the initial 40 PSI makes perfect sense, and I'm guessing he
backed it down to 35 as that was the max running pressure on the
sidewall.  You would be correct to drop it down a little more based on
the door placard.

nate

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Don - 10 Aug 2007 02:53 GMT
>The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
>who seemed pretty knowledgeable

He's not.

> and he filled up the front tires to
>40psi and the back to 35psi. Why did he do that when the door panel
>says 30?

WIdepsread ignorant misconception that the pressure on the side of the
tire is a recommendation.  Weight of vehicle, spring rates, center of
gravity, propensity to oversteer/understeer, roll center, front/rear
weight bias etc. etc. are all factors that affect optimum tire
pressureas much as the tire itself.  Thus the "PLACARD ON VEHICLE"
that the writing on the tire tells you to reference.  Unfortunately,
most lube franchise and tire store employees are not capable of
reading that far.  There is also a widespread ignorant belief that
since the perils of underinflation are well known it follows that the
more air the better.

I would trust Honda's chassis engineers long before some Firestone
dude and so should you.

Don
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Joe - 10 Aug 2007 03:32 GMT
> >The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
> >who seemed pretty knowledgeable
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>
> Donwww.donsautomotive.com

Here's the reason for my question - I went on a trip not to long ago
and checked my tires before leaving and they were at 32psi (I had
recently had a mechanic perform an oil change). I lowered the psi to
30 as it said on the door panel and had a blowout on the road. I'm
wondering if that blowout was due to underinflation.
Tegger - 10 Aug 2007 04:02 GMT
Joe <joe5345@gmail.com> wrote in news:1186713179.951407.5470
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> Here's the reason for my question - I went on a trip not to long ago
> and checked my tires before leaving and they were at 32psi (I had
> recently had a mechanic perform an oil change). I lowered the psi to
> 30 as it said on the door panel and had a blowout on the road. I'm
> wondering if that blowout was due to underinflation.

From underinflation by only TWO psi? I very much doubt it.

More likely the tire had undergone long-term severe underinflation
(like 10psi) or suffered a sudden large gash due to road debris.

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Steve W. - 10 Aug 2007 04:24 GMT
>>> The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
>>> who seemed pretty knowledgeable
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> 30 as it said on the door panel and had a blowout on the road. I'm
> wondering if that blowout was due to underinflation.

Nope, More like you hit a chunk of junk in the road or a curb causing it
to blow. Doesn't take much sometimes.

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Nate Nagel - 10 Aug 2007 11:18 GMT
>>>The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
>>>who seemed pretty knowledgeable
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> 30 as it said on the door panel and had a blowout on the road. I'm
> wondering if that blowout was due to underinflation.

Not unless you had a leak.  However on a road trip I probably would have
fudged the pressure up a little bit, because a) you generally are
heavily loaded on a road trip b) you're also likely to be traveling on a
freeway at high speed and c) higher pressure gives somewhat better fuel
economy, but at the expense of ride and possibly handling - all of which
would indicate bumping the pressure up a little.

nate

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jim - 10 Aug 2007 12:55 GMT
> >The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
> >who seemed pretty knowledgeable
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> WIdepsread ignorant misconception that the pressure on the side of the
> tire is a recommendation.  

Yes. well its seems there also seems to be a widespread misconception
that a person asking questions on Usenet is always providing accurate
factual information. For all anyone one can tell from reading the
question asked, the poster may have picked the car up from the shop
drove it 10 miles home on a hot day and then checked the tire pressure.

-jim

>Weight of vehicle, spring rates, center of
> gravity, propensity to oversteer/understeer, roll center, front/rear
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Don
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Joe - 10 Aug 2007 19:49 GMT
> > WIdepsread ignorant misconception that the pressure on the side of the
> > tire is a recommendation.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -jim

would that make that much of a difference in Psi if it was a hot day?
For the record the car had been sitting in my garage (on a hot day)
for about 6 hours when I checked the pressure.
cuhulin@webtv.net - 10 Aug 2007 21:53 GMT
On hot days, the air pressure in tires does expand, but you shouldn't
bleed off any air pressure.I remember an article I read in an auto
magazine over thirty years ago that some auto manufacturers reccomend a
lower than optimal air pressure for a softer ride.I checked the air
pressure in the tires of my 1978 Dodge van before I went to the food
store this afternoon.I keep about 40 psi in the tires regarless of what
the manufacturer says and what it says on the tires.
cuhulin
Omegastorm - 12 Aug 2007 18:40 GMT
the place card on the door panel is for the original tire the model came
with :banghead: if underinflated you can cause mageby riding on the side
wall if over inflated you can cause a air pocket in the rubber itself
and increase in you chances of a flat

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clifto - 10 Aug 2007 04:31 GMT
> The door panel reads 30psi. I just got two new tires from a mechanic
> who seemed pretty knowledgeable and he filled up the front tires to
> 40psi and the back to 35psi. Why did he do that when the door panel
> says 30?

Because he knows more about tire pressure than the engineers who designed
your car.

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Ad absurdum per aspera - 10 Aug 2007 21:49 GMT
The pressure marked on the sidewalls is a maximum, usually needed to
reach the maximum load capacity of the tire (which is also marked on
the sidewall) but not necessarily where the best handling is found
with more-normal loads.  That, as you surmised, varies from car to car
and is found on a door panel or in the owner's manual or some other
place specific to the car.

See for instance
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=147&currentpage=1

Racers and advanced sports car enthusiasts might "chalk" tires or use
pyrometers to fine-tune the best tire pressure for what they are
doing, or will bias it in a certain direction to get a specific
cornering result; but regular folks doing ordinary driving, and who
haven't made  suspension mods or major changes in the size and type of
tire, will probably find the best advice on the door panel.

If you're going to err, it's better to be a bit overinflated (within
the sidewall rating) than grossly underinflated.  But why err when you
can be right?   Remember to take the readings "cold" (i.e., before
doing much driving) and to re-check every few weeks or before a long
trip, whichever comes first -- tires lose air over time, and sometimes
just one of them will do it faster.

Cheers,
--Joe
 
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