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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2007

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wendalspanswick - 12 Aug 2007 15:23 GMT
My father has put anti freeze in his Xantia instead of hydraulic fluid.
Can
it be drained? Should the car not be driven? Any help or advice please?
Mike Romain - 12 Aug 2007 17:19 GMT
> My father has put anti freeze in his Xantia instead of hydraulic fluid.
> Can
> it be drained? Should the car not be driven? Any help or advice please?

Do not drive it!

'Where' did he put it?

Or is xantia a part I have never heard of?

Mike
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wendalspanswick - 12 Aug 2007 17:27 GMT
It was put in the hydraulic fluid tank.
Mike Romain - 12 Aug 2007 18:17 GMT
> It was put in the hydraulic fluid tank.

The hydraulic fluid tank for 'what' system?

Mike
MasterBlaster - 12 Aug 2007 18:36 GMT
> > It was put in the hydraulic fluid tank.
>
> The hydraulic fluid tank for 'what' system?

Looks like "all" the systems...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citroën_Xantia

- Suspension
- -----------
- From an engineering perspective, the Xantia's biggest advance was
- the suspension. From launch, the more expensive models were available
- with an enhanced version of the XM's Hydractive computer-controlled
- version of the hydropneumatic self-leveling suspension. This used extra
- suspension spheres to allow a soft ride in normal conditions, but taut body
- control during hard braking, acceleration or cornering.

- In 1995, the Activa technology was introduced, which again used a
- combination of computer control and mechanical changes to all but eliminate
- body roll. This technology is more broadly known as active suspension

- The Xantia was the last Citroën to use a common hydraulic circuit for
- suspension, brakes and steering like the pioneering Citroën DS.

Not looking good.  :(
Scott Dorsey - 12 Aug 2007 22:35 GMT
>> wendalspanswick wrote:
>> > It was put in the hydraulic fluid tank.
>>
>> The hydraulic fluid tank for 'what' system?
>
>Looks like "all" the systems...

Oh, my.  I had no idea Citroen was still doing this as late as '95.

Okay, here's the BAD news: the glycol and water are mostly going to settle
down to the bottom of the hydraulic system.  This means everything is
probably going to need to be purged if much of it got in there, and the
way these things are designed, that really means _everything_.  Brakes,
steering, clutch, suspension hydraulics.

The GOOD news: unlike with pure water, the antifreeze won't cause the
system to rust out.

Now, I don't know the Xantia, but it's possible that all the coolant just
got into the hydraulic reservoir and won't leave it until the pump starts.
Whether this is the case depends on the design, and you'll have to look at
it and think about what would happen if a heavier-than-oil fluid got in
there.  If the reservoir is at a low point and the fluid needs to be forced
up to get out of it, you may be okay just draining the reservoir.  But
whatever you do, don't start the thing until you have drained and refilled
it and looked at the contents in a pan to see what is coming out.
--scott

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wendalspanswick - 12 Aug 2007 19:23 GMT
On his Xantia the hydraulic fuel tank is for evrything, brakes, suspension,
etc. It is a 97 1.8L injection engine.
Mike Romain - 12 Aug 2007 20:27 GMT
> On his Xantia the hydraulic fuel tank is for evrything, brakes, suspension,
> etc. It is a 97 1.8L injection engine.

Ouch!

You need professional help and could be in big trouble if it gets driven
or even started by the sounds of the other post, like that.

Mike
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88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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Scott Dorsey - 13 Aug 2007 23:43 GMT
>> It was put in the hydraulic fluid tank.
>
>The hydraulic fluid tank for 'what' system?

It's a Citroen.  Everything runs off a central hydraulic system, so when
the main reservoir gets contaminated, _everything_ needs to get flushed
and bled.  Brakes, clutch, power steering, hydraulic suspension, it all
runs off the same system.

I can just imagine a bunch of French engineers sitting around a table
laughing.  "And now, if THIS fails..."
--scott

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2001jettavr6 - 12 Aug 2007 20:38 GMT
well start by bleeding the brakes. then consult a physician for your
father for not thinking without tools and a manual. then the rest i
dont know

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