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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2007

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no adjustment hole for parking brake adjuster on 03 Explorer?

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hillpc@emailaccount.com - 29 Aug 2007 23:57 GMT
Posting this again here because of few responses on
rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer.

Trying to get the rear rotors off our '03 Explorer; of course they're
stuck.  My guess is that the rust inside the rotor has formed a lip in
the area not touched by the shoes.  But I can't back off the shoes
because there's no hole for the adjuster.  Or it's welded on the
sheetmetal.  No rubber plug.  ???
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Yes, the adjuster for the little parking brake drum built into the
rear disc brake rotor.  I looked more closely at the backing plate and
it has what looked (only a little) bit like the nickel-sized knockouts
one sees on electrical outlet boxes, which are quite easy to remove by
poking with a screwdriver.  But they wouldn't budge when I beat on
them with an admittedly blunt chisel and a decent-sized hammer.
Started denting in the backing plate.  I eventually got the rotor/drum
off each side by using a big gear puller on it.  One side flew off and
fell on the floor without damage; the other side ripped off the
mounting hardware inside and hung up the rotor/drum from coming off
more than about 3/4" as the brake shoes cocked sideways as I tried to
remove the rotor/drum farther.  But it came off far enough that I was
able to reach in with a screwdriver and back off the adjuster enough
to then get the rotor off.  The gear puller action had also ripped the
linings from the shoes.

As I'd suspected, there was quite a rust buildup in the area not
contacted by the shoes (it was now a smaller diameter than the shoes),
making it quite a challenge to get the rotor/drum off.  What was Ford
thinking by closing off the holes?  The factory service manual only
says to reach in through the hole and back off the adjuster.  !
aarcuda69062 - 30 Aug 2007 00:32 GMT
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> Posting this again here because of few responses on
> rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer.
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> thinking by closing off the holes?  The factory service manual only
> says to reach in through the hole and back off the adjuster.  !

Maybe you should inspect your brakes more often.
Nate Nagel - 30 Aug 2007 00:43 GMT
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> <1188428258.105750.92830@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
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>
> Maybe you should inspect your brakes more often.

That's a little rough, when was the last time you inspected a parking
brake?  I don't think I've ever seen them on the Porsche.  Now service
brakes, yes, I agree with you but that's not what we're talking about here.

nate

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aarcuda69062 - 30 Aug 2007 04:53 GMT
> > Maybe you should inspect your brakes more often.
>
> That's a little rough, when was the last time you inspected a parking
> brake?  

This morning.  Jeep Liberty, similar set up.

> I don't think I've ever seen them on the Porsche.  Now service
> brakes, yes, I agree with you but that's not what we're talking about here.

Knowing the soft points of a particular vehicle dictates what
systems get the most attention.  This particular brake set up is
very failure prone aside from his can't get the rotor off issue.
I was being dead serious and it was probably the best advice
he'll get.
hillpc@emailaccount.com - 30 Aug 2007 00:48 GMT
> Maybe you should inspect your brakes more often.

Point well taken, aarcuda69062.  That would have knocked off the rust
each time before it built up so high.  Of course, there's no reason
for the parking brake shoes ever to wear, because they never see a
rotating drum in a normal parking situation, unless one drives away
with the parking brake still on.  That's why I never looked at them
till now (85K miles).  I'll look at them more frequently from now on.
aarcuda69062 - 30 Aug 2007 04:58 GMT
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<1188431281.500296.112010@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

> > Maybe you should inspect your brakes more often.
>
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> with the parking brake still on.  That's why I never looked at them
> till now (85K miles).  I'll look at them more frequently from now on.

That would be a good plan.  I see this things (shoes) worn down
on vehicles where the owners swear that they never use the
parking brake.

If you cut the rotors or replace them, it's not a bad idea to add
a little heavier chamfer to the edge of the drum portion to slow
the rust ridge a bit.
 
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