Explorer core/freeze plug developed a sudden 3/16" diameter hole leading
to engine overheat. Shop says that following core plug replacement the
engine is failing a block test and they claim that combustion gases are
making their way into the coolant. After cooling down and being towed
home it ran fine when I filled it up with water and made the short dash
over to the shop.
vehicle is 110k miles, ok condition, but probably needs an A/C tuneup
and has a few other minor issues. Some of the trim on the exterior is
either peeling or faded. I'm probably looking to not pay to have it
fixed, but trade it in and buy a replacement.
I'm going to get the car back tomorrow and I think I'll drive it some
this weekend to see if I can confirm there is a leak. I know the guys
that own the shop and they are probably telling me the truth.
1. Has anyone had any luck getting some help from the factory in
dealing with a significant engine issue this long out of warranty?
2. I won't sell this car to an individual, but looking for thoughts /
suggestions as to what I should/need to tell a dealership when trading
in on the overheat and presumed engine/coolant leak.
3. I like the fact that the Explorer has the fold out rear seat for 2
extra people on occasion. I've only just started researching
replacement options and looking for vehicles with 5 +2 seating.
Thanks,
Gary
Steve W. - 31 Aug 2007 03:24 GMT
> Explorer core/freeze plug developed a sudden 3/16" diameter hole leading
> to engine overheat. Shop says that following core plug replacement the
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> 1. Has anyone had any luck getting some help from the factory in
> dealing with a significant engine issue this long out of warranty?
Nope. Out of warranty = Your on your Own. Unless it was a fairly common
failure that they extended good will on. This isn't.
> 2. I won't sell this car to an individual, but looking for thoughts /
> suggestions as to what I should/need to tell a dealership when trading
> in on the overheat and presumed engine/coolant leak.
Tell them it has a probable failed head gasket and whatever else. Or do
what most others would do and lie to them, then hope they forget it when
you go back for any work needed. You might want to consider putting it
for sale with a written list of what is wrong plainly posted. Get the
new buyer to sign two copies of the list and bill of sale. But with the
current glut of used vehicles out there you may have to wait awhile.
> 3. I like the fact that the Explorer has the fold out rear seat for 2
> extra people on occasion. I've only just started researching
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>
> Gary

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Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
Scott Dorsey - 31 Aug 2007 14:54 GMT
>1. Has anyone had any luck getting some help from the factory in
>dealing with a significant engine issue this long out of warranty?
No, never.
>2. I won't sell this car to an individual, but looking for thoughts /
>suggestions as to what I should/need to tell a dealership when trading
>in on the overheat and presumed engine/coolant leak.
Tell them what happened. Maybe your head gasket is bad, maybe your head
is warped, maybe your block cracked when the thing overheated. It could
be a comparatively minor problem, or it could make the car worthless.
You don't know, so you're going to be selling to someone who will be taking
a gamble.
--scott

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