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Dis O-Ring ?

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BigFoot - 07 Oct 2007 23:54 GMT
In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?

thx
Noozer - 08 Oct 2007 00:25 GMT
> In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?

Dat cud be da ring what look like da O.

... in what context are you asking?
BigFoot - 08 Oct 2007 03:32 GMT
>> In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?
>
>Dat cud be da ring what look like da O.
>
>... in what context are you asking?

80,000 mile motor of 1995 era burns 1 quart of oil within 1,000 miles;
someone suggest its due to the "Dis O-Ring."
Nate Nagel - 08 Oct 2007 11:59 GMT
>>>In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?
>>
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> 80,000 mile motor of 1995 era burns 1 quart of oil within 1,000 miles;
> someone suggest its due to the "Dis O-Ring."

Distributor?  Does that particular engine use an O-ring for the dist. seal?

just a guess

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aarcuda69062 - 08 Oct 2007 14:23 GMT
> >>>In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?
> >>
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>
> Distributor?

Not a distributor but the oil pump drive assembly which is what
sits where the distributor did in previous incarnations of the
engine.  Think GM distributor with all but the bottom 1 1/2
inches cut off and capped.

>  Does that particular engine use an O-ring for the dist. seal?

Uses an o-ring to seal the oil pump drive.

Permanent fix is a new brown O-ring and a flat gasket.
MasterBlaster - 08 Oct 2007 08:58 GMT
> In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?

Seals the Distributorless Ignition System's leftover hole.

Here's what this page has to say about it...
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/34Performance/dohc.html

One more area to inspect often is the oil pump drive. This is located on the
rear (LH) of the motor, under the throttlebody. While almost impossible to
see from up top, if it starts leaking oil it will leak oil VERY FAST!!! The oil
pump drive is a leftover from the 2.8/3.1 design. It is where the Distributor
used to go. With the advent of DIS, the dist is gone, but the gears and oil
pump remain. This is sealed with an O-ring alone. On the other side, is a
pressurized gallery. When (not if) the O-ring breaks, engine oil will leak
under whatever oil pressure is available. In extreme cases, a quart every
100 miles is possible. More bad news: to replace the .29 O-ring, the upper
half of the motor must come off. Replacement requires cylinder head removal.
Only good part is if this happens, you can replace a bunch of other parts with
virtually no labor...it's already apart.
Ashton Crusher - 09 Oct 2007 02:51 GMT
>> In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?
>
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>Only good part is if this happens, you can replace a bunch of other parts with
>virtually no labor...it's already apart.

Don't know about the 3.4 but on my 3.1 I only had to take off the
throttle body and a few other easy parts to replace the o-ring.
aarcuda69062 - 09 Oct 2007 06:34 GMT
> >> In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?
> >
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> Don't know about the 3.4 but on my 3.1 I only had to take off the
> throttle body and a few other easy parts to replace the o-ring.

There was only one 3.4 in the model year the OP mentioned, to get
to the O-ring, the rear cylinder head has to come off.
That doesn't mean there isn't a hack fix...
Ashton Crusher - 11 Oct 2007 06:07 GMT
>> >> In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?
>> >
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>to the O-ring, the rear cylinder head has to come off.
>That doesn't mean there isn't a hack fix...

The o-ring I'm talking about is in the intake manifold.  I can't see
how the head could be in the way of it.
aarcuda69062 - 11 Oct 2007 15:44 GMT
> >> >> In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?
> >> >
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> The o-ring I'm talking about is in the intake manifold.  I can't see
> how the head could be in the way of it.  

There was only one 3.4 in the model year the OP mentioned, to get
to the O-ring, the rear cylinder head has to come off.

More specifically, the 3.4 liter engine offered by GM in the
model year mentioned by the original poster was the dual overhead
cam engine, the rear cylinder head overhangs the oil pump drive
support, you'd only be able to lift it 1/4" _maybe_ before it
contacted the cylinder head. 1/4" doesn't even expose the O-ring.
Ashton Crusher - 14 Oct 2007 22:15 GMT
>> >> >> In regards to 3.4 GM motor, what does "Dis O-Ring" mean?
>> >> >
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>support, you'd only be able to lift it 1/4" _maybe_ before it
>contacted the cylinder head. 1/4" doesn't even expose the O-ring.

Sounds like a completely different engine, I was specifically talking
about the 2.8/3.1 series.  The 3.4 sounds like a nightmare of expense
to fix a 50cent part.
Steve - 15 Oct 2007 16:41 GMT
> Sounds like a completely different engine, I was specifically talking
> about the 2.8/3.1 series.  The 3.4 sounds like a nightmare of expense
> to fix a 50cent part.

There was also a pushrod 3.4 in the 2.8/3.1/3.4 series of engines. The
DOHC was different, and as you said an utter nightmare. It was also a
raging piece of crap.
 
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